PLEASE NERF THE HOPLITES, THEY ARE EXCESSIVELY OVERPOWERED AND BROKEN!

The Hoplites are completely broken!! They’re supposed to be effective against cavalry, but right now, they’re overpowered and effective against every single military unit type!!. Hoplites easily decimate the entire Norse army, making the Norse excessively weak against them.


If hoplites are so powerful against all types of units then there is no point in the existence of the Hypaspist???.

How is a Norse supposed to counter a Greek??? if the Greeks are now so powerful that they only need 4 types of units to win easily: hoplites, heroes, peltasts and some siege weapons. Norse infantry is excessively weak against hoplites!

when i saw the tittle of this article… i knew it was you lol

I hope the devs dont waste much more time with you

xoxo

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Hersir loose to Murmillo as well as dao swordsmen. They dont win vs any generalist infantry so its a very bad comparison and idea. Also again like you always do, the simulation skews even more the result with upgrades. At this point is obvious why you never shows the unit stats because you know this.

Send herisr vs Katapeltes and watch them win. Does that mean norse absolutely beat all the atlantean army and negate them? No, its a bad conclusion from a bad comparison.

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An anti-cavalry unit like the Hoplite shouldn’t be able to easily overpower the best of the Norse infantry, such as Hersirs and Bersekers. That’s completely absurd! Practically, Hoplites annihilate all Norse infantry and all Norse cavalry. That’s ridiculous. An anti-cavalry unit like the Hoplite that can be spammed from the barracks shouldn’t be so powerful! If Hoplites are so effective against other melee and cavalry units, then why do the Hypaspist exist???

The hoplite isnt an anti calv unit. Its a generalist infantry. The bets nordic norse infantry isnt the hersir, so yea 2 for 2. Imagine if hersir beat infantry on top of myth units. Hypaspist exist eaxtly because hoplites arent overpoweres and do loose vs other infantry, like again, murmillo and Dao swordsmen. The hoplite isnt a hirdman or a katapeltes that only do good vs calv and weak against anything else.

I always love how you will ignore all the shenanigans in your simulations and just jump to something else.

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What you’re saying is false; Hoplites are anti-cavalry units. The current Hoplite is completely broken and far too powerful for a barracks unit. Hoplites are currently causing too many unbalanced matches.

The Hersir is an expensive unit and the only melee hero unit the Norse have, and the Berserker is the Norse’s frontline defense. It’s completely absurd that the main Norse military units are utterly useless and counteracted by a simple Hoplite. Or rather, all Norse melee units and cavalry are completely countered by Hoplites, who were never intended to be an anti-infantry unit.

Hoplites aren’t powerful? Have you not seen how Hoplites easily annihilate the entire Norse army? The Norse are currently a disaster; Norse infantry is terrible. The only good thing the Norse have is their cavalry, and that’s it. Currently, the Greeks are completely broken, and that’s why everyone chooses them. Nobody likes an overly unbalanced game that only favors one Pantheon, and that’s why the game is losing so many players!

Greeks use podromos as their anti cavalry. Hoplites are generalist units, they are supposed to be good against everything. You make the same mistake in these videos as you make in your previous videos, The norse train Throwing axemen against hoplites. No matter what your army is, You need to have at least some axemen in your composition against pure hoplites.

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Won’t concede, won’t acknowledge any valid points, will simply copy and paste already stated points, even after they’re debunked several times. Been there.

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He wrote the topic title in all caps so he must be right!

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Exactly! He MUST be. There’s absolutely possibly no way he could be wrong about anything he writes, no matter how much valid points we raise, since he wrote in all caps! LOL

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Theres hard counters and soft counters. Hoplites beat calv in the sense that cav has low hack armor and hoplites deal hack damage. The 1.25% is more of a niche than anything, specially compared to actual calv counters like katapeltes and hirdman.

So? Does that mean it should beat anything? Its a hero unit thats 20 resources more expensive than a priest but a lot better at human combat. Heroes in general arent meant to be good vs human units. You arent supposed to make a full norse hero army and just attack move into a win.

Thats the worst take ever of the berserk. The whole point of that unit is a high dps unit thats fragile. If you want a tank build jarls. Also you know what beats hoplites (and any other infantry)? Throwing axemen.

This isnt just false its very funny. Norse has ways to deal with hoplites, you just want to ignore them. Also if the hoplite was an anti inantry unit it would beat murmillo or dao swordsman right? Right? Yet they dont…

I never said hoplites were bad. they are a very good unit. But to take your joke of a simulation and draw the conclusion they counter infantry is a joke. Not only by hiding details but also by throwing a much worse army comp into something its not meant to beat.

Next test is gonna be something absurd like katapeltes vs peltast and some wild conslusion that katapeltes counter both calv and archers.

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Oh for certain. The only reason i even reply to this posts is so others (who may be new or not know better) can see how absurd his claims are, how easy you can disprove them and how he will just jump into another post and repeat the same dance.

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