Says exotic and list 3 mythologies that have the same origin as Greek and Norse Mythology.
Not that any of them are bad though.
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Speaking of exotic, I was wondering whether or not a skraeling civ would work or not? Some people talked about a north american native civ but there are so many to choose from, so what if we had a kind of umbrella civ for all these people? The norse explorers used the term skraeiling for different groups occupying the north-eastern territory. I know some of you donât like umbrella civs but hey, greeks actually are. What are your thoughts?
I feel like there should be a gold standard when it comes to choosing a specific mythology for the game.
I think the fans would be satisfied if the developers can hit these checkboxes below.
1.) The mythology needs to have a full and a rich backstory. It also cannot be a âmodernâ one. Characters from the story cannot be ripped off from another myth by simply renaming them. The Atlanteans are an exception.
2.) The overall aesthetics of the named civ should be different visually. A different language communication is preferred.
3.) Its mythology needs to have more than 10+ bestiaries. At least one which can be labeled as a potential titan. This is to ensure that the players have enough monsters for them to access and use.
4.) Creatures that werenât borrow from other cultures should take precedent.
5.) Its gods and goddesses should be enough in terms of quantity so that the player can choose one of the three primary gods at the beginning.
6.) Choosing myths based on their locations should probably be a priority. This is why the Mexica / Aztecs are the #1 requested civ. After each continent or regional location has been met and finalized, then we can go back to choosing myths regardless of where they originated from.
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Exotic in the case of America and AfricaâŠin Europe are more commonâŠ
i thought age of mythology is a game about those ancient/antique mythologies and cultures from the old world and now here we are talking about lovecraft, christianity and native americans 
but i quess native americans could be there with some imagination. i personaly find them not so fitting for the game but thatâs just my taste i think.
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In really could be any mythologyâŠ
i peronally think cultures like romans, celts and babylonians would be way more fitting for the theme and vibe of the game. lovecraft feels really hard out of place. like warhammer orcs or something haha
but in the end itâs just my opinion
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Yeah,but donât close the doorâŠ
I mean, none of us has the power to open or close this door, at the end of the day weâre just geeks discussing a game other people will make decisions about.
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Thatâs what people always say about every AoE game. âNative Americans are fine but please not in this game, add them to other AoE instead.â
The Norse are a 1000 AD civilisations while the Egyptians are a 1000 BC civilisation.
AoM is not a historic game.
It only had 3 real and 1 fantasy civilisation originally with the Chinese added later (and probably being completely reworked for AoMR) so there is no much to go off of.
Native Americans would be geographically a lot closer to the original AoM civilisations then Chinese because the Atlantians are already in the Atlantic. Itâs not that far away from America.
Unlike China were you would either have to cross though all of Central Asia or go all around Africa by ship.
Every one of us has little influence on the development of the game but as a collective our voices are important.
We are the one financing the game though out purchases at the end of the day.
(So saying âcan you pleas add my culture to the game and then make it cheaper please so I can afford itâ is probably not the smartest of strategies.)
Ouch. Iâm making the Lakota for the Divine Edition mod. Play them when it comes out and see what you think then.
Yes, what do they have with Native Americans?.. Meso civs ask all, but the poor Native Americans, not they donâtâŠ
ExactlyâŠ
I think this has to do with pop culture influence. Most people (including me) associate native americans more with colonial and cowboy settings despite the fact they existed way longer. But the people of the old world never saw them before this age (apart from vikings i guess?). I think thatâs the reason why they are exclusive in AoE3.
itâs not directly about historical dates or geography. Itâs more about the feeling and flavor of the game.
When i think about Age of Mythology i think about that typical ââancient cultures and myths of the old world like ancient greeks and egyptiansââ theme.
But itâs just my personal feel about the game.
Haha sorry. I donât want to hurt someone
In the end itâs all in the developers hands wich culture to add and wich not. And if they decide to make a DLC with native americans i will buy and enjoy it anyway. If they decide to add something from fantasy literature like lovecraft i will lay down and cry haha
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You are talking about the AoE3DE mod you are working on or an AoMR mod?
Modding AoMR with AoE3DE assets might be super easy.
I donât know that much about Native American mythology so I canât tell how many different people could be considered having the same mythology. Like do Dakota have a different Mythology for example?
The borders are often hard to draw in Europe too. Is Roman and Greek mythology different enough?
Mythological borders are not the same as linguistic or political borders.
Are spirits similar enough to gods for AoM purposes? I guess so.
But that doesnât really limit them from being added to AoM.
In many ways they are similar the Norse mythology.
Most things we know about Norse mythology is from like 12th century Christian Icelanders writing down old stories.
The same is true for Native Americans. Most things were only written down after the contact with Christian missionaries and for older things we have to rely on archaeological evidence.
Different people feel about it differently. Currently the Norse are certainly the odd ones. Far away in time and place.
Americans would be on about the same level. Depends.
Mayans feel more ancient then Norse tbh.
absolutely. thatâs what i wanted to say 
yes, absolutely. but i personallly think about them as the norh and germanic tribes that were already around at this time. And again. Pop culture. if you ask someone wich ancient mythologies he knows he will probably say something like: ,greek, egypt, northâ'. i think thatâs the reason why they are in the game.
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Yes, but this is about mythology, not so much about history⊠that is, any mythology between 3000 BC and 1500 AD can enter AoM⊠you can even consider mythologies, The Lord of the Rings, Star Stek, Star Wars and Lovecraft (obviously the devs wonât put them in the game due to copyright issues)âŠ
Sorry but i personally think that a game about ancient mythology and a game about a modern fantasy franchise (lovecraft, lord of the rings, etc). are two absolutely different things.
I donât know if i understand you correctly, but if you are saying a lovecraft or lord of the rings culture would fit the same way in age of mythology like mayans, babylonians, celts etc. than you are talking crazy stuff
Fantasy literature is something people wrote as a clearly thought up ââotherworldââ to entertain people.
Mythologies are old beliefes and worldviews from ancient cultures.
Donât drop it in the same pot please
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Those 3 are without a doubt the most popular ones in the West. The last 3 Assassins Creed games happen to be Egyptian, Greek and Norse and also had DLCs that let you explore the mythologies of those cultures, including Atlantis in the Greek game.
Also many other games based on Greek and Norse mythology, Egyptian not as much.
The only thing that is represented in games and media more often is Japanese mythology. Not surprise people want to see it in AoMR.
One Mythology that is a little harder to categorise is the myth of King Arthur. Should it be part of the Celtic civilisation? Itâs kinda âmodernâ as in itâs based on the post Roman Britain so it doesnât really work well together with a Pagan pantheon.
Also itâs very much associated with Knights and not Celtic warriors.
Should the Celts in the AoM universe be mainly living in Central Europe like in ancient times or in Britannia like in the Middle Ages?
The Celts reached from Iberia all the way to Anatolia so they would perfectly cover half of Europe in that time period.
If there was to be an âArthurian civâ I think it should be its own thing, as a celtic civ has so much more to offer than only being a mere norse copy/paste. However, I know both mythologies (celtic and arthurian) share many creatures so I donât know if they could each have a consequent bestiary.
Arthurian mythology is Celtic. So it would make little sense to have both.
But how much design space of the Celts should Arthurian ideas occupy?
One idea would be to only add Arthurian things to one of the 3 mayor gods.
I like the idea of having more difference between the major gods thematically instead of âjustâ modifiers.
I wish all major gods had unique units like the Greek ones.