[Poll](Updated) Which civs would you like to see in the game? (All popularly requested civs included)

Cumans don’t have Cavalry Archer bonuses.

Also Recurve Bow makes ZERO sense as an Imperial Age UT and Magyars had GREAT Foot Archers throughout the history

And it’s not needed to have a Cavalry Archer bonus in the Castle Age as a nomad civ.

They do, they have the Cavalry speed bonus, which affects Cav Archers.

It does, it enforces the usage of non-Stables units. It is a case of gameplay over realism.

All Steppe civs do.

i think his point was imperial age. by the imperial age they would have no longer been nomadic. but you know. balance.

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Gameplay over realism. It is how you get a game, honestly.

Very huge bonus. I will definitely try the useless Cuman Cavalry Archers tomorrow. (not Kipchaks)

Yes and nobody uses non-Hun, Tatar CAs, Kipchaks and Mangudais in the Castle Age and It wouldn’t break the game. It would BUFF the mediocre Magyar civ in the late Castle Age. Remember Turks already have a CA related Castle Age Unique Tech

It is essentially free Husbandry in the Castle Age, and Husbandy and a half in the Imperial Age.

Also, Kipchaks are a Cav Archer UU, so like all Steppe civs, Cumans revolve around Cav Archers, specially in the Castle Age.

And Magyars have the Corvinian Army, so they can get Trash UU in the Castle Age.
Ask Turks players what they would prefer:
-UT for an extra 20HP on Cav Archerin the Castle Age?
-Trash UU in the Castle Age?

I like the concept of new technologies. I would particularly also like to see exclusive technologies by region. ex. two or three technologies that only Native Americans have access to (I’m not talking about unique technology), peoples of North America, Andean peoples, Mesoamericans. Indian peoples (three or four regional technologies), African people … Europeans … etc.

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But free Husbandry doesn’t make Cuman CAs good. You have to throw away the useless Cuman Cavalry Archers in Imp

It is a bonus to Cav Archers, like all Steppe civs.

And? It DOESNT make them a Castle Age CAVALRY ARCHER civ. Same with the Mongols.

It does, specially the Kipchak.
Castle Age Mangudai are also seen with Mongols, since it is essentially better than the base Cav Archer.

CAVALRY ARCHER

I was speaking about non-unique unit cav archers.

The Kipchak is the unique unit of the Cumans in Age of Empires II: Definitive Edition . It is a cavalry archer that fires multiple arrows at once.

The Mangudai is the unique unit of the Mongols in Age of Empires II . It is a cavalry archer with an attack bonus against siege weapons.

both are listed as cavalry archers. just because you want more actual Cavalry Archers has ZERO Bearing on them being cavalry archers.

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Kipchak is literally a Cavalry Archer. It hass all the same counters and Armour classes.

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I was speaking about the Cavalry Archer AS A UNIT, not as a classification.

and they rarely see these days period in the castle age, due to the high cost and creation time. i’m assuming the frame delay also factors in.

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War Wagons, Elephant Archers, Mangudais and Kipchaks, are all still Cavalry Archers, just Unique versions of the unit.
Just like the Berzerker is an UU Champion, the Longbowman is an UU Arbalest, and the Keshik is an UU Cavalier.

and? I was SPEAKING about the CAVALRY ARCHERS, not the UNIQUE UNITS.

But those are Cavalry Archers, and all those civs taht have CA bonii also affect their CA UUs.

They are, for all effects and purposes, Cavalry Archers.

Are you trolling? Seriously…