it reminds me of this
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Actually no, cause the vills are for free. Malay have to pay for them. Ofc Malay still have the timing advantage.
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They didn’t say of which civ belongs this tech tree image but I think it could be from the Gurjaras because their Castle Age Camels are really strong with all the civ bonuses
Camel Riders with:
- Camel Scout in Feudal
- '+ 50% bonus damage
- '- 25% food cost
- '+ 4 melee armor
- Train 20% faster
All of this also applies to Elephants but I think they would have EA and lack BE
If you make 2 extra vills and click feudal age, those 2 extra vills will pay off their resources by the time you reach feudal. It would be a little less for feudal and a little more for castle but by castle age it would even out.
Those are unique techs, so they play a role only in the late late game. They just seem to be a pure camel civ and that might be bad because camels are primarily just a counter unit. Really hope that’s not their actual list of bonuses.
According to this app (AOE2: DE), a Farmer generates only 44 food during the time you advance to the Feudal Age, which would be even considerably less for the Malay, and of course you need to collect wood to build Farms, too. So Malay are definitely behind on resources when they have advanced to the Feudal Age. At least in Feudal Age, I’d say the Malay bonus is the worse one.
I agree. I like creative ideas, but my fear is that they will simply have weird Camel Riders.
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my guess is that Elephant archer will become generic unit?
Yes, it is a generic unit now in Archery Range.
Of course, they would be the Gurjarats, the Dravinidians, the Bengalis and the Indians would be called Hindustani…
Of course, that would explain why they took so long to release a dlc of the game…
Yes, I doubt that they launch so many civs of the indian, so some civs would still be umbrellas civs…
What evidence is there other than the so called leaked tech tree image to support Indians getting renamed?
Gurjaras logo looking very similar to original Indians one?
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How is having a similar logo supporting a civi rename?
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Well, it’s not just that. The Gurjaras area also overlaps with Prithviraj campaign (1, 2 & 3). We also don’t know for sure if there will be a renamed Indians as Hindustanis for a fourth Civ, or maybe Gurjaras become the new Indians?
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It’s not so important info, but it seems that we will get a new model of berry bushes, much larger one.
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I think this is what will happen:
"Let’s go over the issue from the beginning.
First, it’s usually thought that the current Indian civ, aside from easily replaced flavor like leader list & wonder, with its camel & gunpowder focus, is entirely based around states created by Islamic conquest, i.e. Delhi Sultanate, Mughal Empire, and everything in-between.
The Prithviraj campaign, on the other hand, has the player control a Rajput kingdom that resisted said conquest. To reflect that, during the campaign the player can’t even research the UT “Sultans”.
To rectify the situation, the community’s two commonly suggested top priorities are to add a Bengal civ and a Dravidian civ, the later usually called “Tamils”, to represent the very distinct cultures and military traditions of northeastern and southern South Asia.
Next to them, the 3rd place suggestion is usually either a Gujarat/Rajput civ for the northwest, or another Dravidian civ, usually the Kannada people (Kannadigaru).
And now we have a possible leak of the new South Asian civs posted on this subreddit. The leak shows us models of UUs that are consistent with official teasers, which cannot be easily faked. So either the leak is 100% real, or its author had access to real portraits of new UUs. The leak shows a pattern similar to the suggestions:
** The Elephant Archer becomes a shared regional unit. This seems pretty much confirmed by the “unupgraded” Elephant Archer in the teaser.*
** The original Indian civ is renamed Hindustanis.*
** A Bengali civ and a Dravidian civ are added, though as been criticized, the latter seems to be another awkward umbrella that has to try to cover all four South Dravidian cultures: Tamil, Telugu, Malayalam (Kerala), Kannada (Tarnataka).*
** The third addition is the Gurjaras, apparently using the word as a broadest general term for northwestern India including the Gujarati and Rajputs.*
If the leaked scheme can be trusted, they’d probably have to change the player civ in the Prithviraj campaign to the Gurjaras (or whatever the northwestern civ is called), for the sake of keeping civ identities straight. If they do that, I think all AoE2DE owners will have access to Gurjaras, while keeping their access to the original Indians/Hindustanis, raising the number of “basic” civs in DE to 36.
You would then buy the new DLC to access the 2 new civs of Bengalis and Dravidians, continuing the pattern of DE DLCs. The 3rd new campaign would be for the newly vacant Hindustani.
(Come to think of it, we may also see them do that to Dracula if the progress of adding popular civs ever moves onto the Vlachs/Romanians.)"
That would also explain why we can’t find a Gurjara nor a Hindustani screenshot. It simply doesn’t exist because Hindustani and Gurjara are going to be base game South Asian civs.
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I think that’s just the angle, with two bushes ond in front of the other
well hopefully they change Slavs as well.
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I think slavs would only need a change in the name to something more specific (Rus), but not in the bonuses or units.