Rename Three Kingdoms Mod

Saw this mod and reddit and had to share this.

Reddit Topic
https://www.reddit.com/r/aoe2/comments/1k1qeak/comment/mnoejpr/

Mod

Quick summary. All this mod does is rename civs, units, and UTs for the 3k civs. It’s compatible with ranked.

They intend to create a similar but separate Khitans → Tanguts Mod as well.

I feel this dlc needs more than just name changes, but ATM i’m not looking a gift horse in the mouth. Really hope to see this mod get the downloads and support it deserves.

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I’d rather the devs just fix this mess.

But the sight of a mod to erase all signs of their DLC should be rather telling.

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The fact someone already did this in their free time this fast means its something the devs can trivially implement as well. I sincerely hope they do.

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The Luojuzi is unlikely to use a ji halberd like the White Feather Guard, and it’s known for being fast and agile in rough terrain but the White Feather Guard is slow.

Obviously, chariots and repeating crossbows were not the Bai things.

The people of Yue/Baiyue certainly had existed in the Middle Ages, but their power had been declining since the Three Kingdoms period and lost their ethnic identity in the (probably early) Middle Ages. As for Wuyue, they were one of the kingdoms during the Five Dynasties and Ten Kingdoms period. While it is undoubtedly medieval, it is also undoubtedly based on a specific political entity rather than an ethnic group. Under normal circumstances, there is no need to be specially introduce Yue/Baiyue or Wuyue as a civ.

Strictly speaking, this mod is still not accurate, but its popularity will reflect people’s dissatisfaction with the existence of Three Kingdoms content in the basic game. I just feel it’s such a shame that Xianbei and Bai had to be sacrificed to cover up the ill-thought-out policy, limited to the tech trees of Wei and Shu, and can no longer have more well-crafted tech trees and more accurate representation of themselves.

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“Additionally gives Tarkans their ‘thump’ back”

What does this mean?

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The Tarkans had a very satisfying thump sound to their attack animation in the original AOE2. That got reworked in DE to a different sound, and many people (including famous caster t90official) have mentioned it many times how they prefer that old sound.

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Do they have sword sound now? :woman_facepalming:

The more people download mods like that the more likely developers think that should be in the base game.

Basically voting by mod downloads.

Some people speculated that the popularity of the 3 Kingdoms scenarios was one fo the main reasons for the setting of this DLC.

They could just have sold the three scenarios of Fylthidelphia as part of the china DLC without adding new dedicated civs for them, it’s cheaper and not something they wouldn’t do :joy: :joy:

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How can you mod this when DLC is not released yet?

All the files are already in the game. In fact, thats how people found out about the campaign being in a Chronicles-esque folder, and the missing ‘‘China’’ campaigns folder as well.

Its also more crucially the reason for the medals bug; the new difficulties added for the 3K campaign messed them up globally

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Wuyue in Chinese means all ethnics live in Wu and Yue region, not only refer to a kingdom, so it’s OK.

Um… You mean this?

Instead of this?

then the so-called Wuyue would be still somehow like the Baiyue. Under normal circumstances, there is no need to be specially introduce them as a civ.

They are a subgroup of Han Chinese, so that will still be a Han Chinese split. People want them now purely because they want to cover up Wu, which reflects how ill-thought-out is the policy of introducing the Three Kingdoms.

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I guess the Wuyue can cover the Southern Dynasties?

If the Chinese werent as Song focused I guess a Wuyue civ could also cover the Southern Song

I don’t know. From the beginning, I don’t think we should have a Han Chinese split in the game.

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I agree we shouldnt have gotten this

But Im trying to salvage from it a bit

Wu are the hardest to rename.
It somewhat makes sense that they represent Southern Chinese people but what are they exactly and what not.

Yue seem a better match.
Maybe Cantonese. They are technically a subgroup but the name has significantly more name recognition.

Also the name can literally just be different in the Chinese version of the game to name the more correct group of people.
In the Chinese version of AoE2 the Huns are also called Xiongnu.

For me personal more fitting civ icons are more important then the names. The current 3 kingdoms ones are just sticking out too much.

Wuyue makes the most sense, since almost all Southern Chinese states were centered in Nanjing, whi was Wu Chinese speaking for most of the middle ages

I guess you could argue for calling them Wu, Yue or Wuyue.
The only one of the 3 that could potentially keep its name.

Wuyue in Chinese is a combination word of Wu and Yue, a region where people speak Wu, Min and Cantonese language.

Chinese name for “Cantonese” is just "Yue"粤.
Yue and Viet is the same word in different language, Chinese believe the Cantonese came from Han and sinicized Viet people.