Mali had Mandekalu cavalry with quilted armor,one ingane hero unit looks similar to it.eithopia not sure.
What? Bushi, Samurai isnât monk. Japanese monk (called Sohei) sometimes fought as INFANTRY. Please study Japanese history.
Tatar, Cuman, Mongol, and most Steppe Civs have two types of cavalry in general: light horse archer and heavy lancers (colloquially, knights).
The Malians have heavy cavalry with quilted armour (one name for them are lifidi).
Japan had knights, or heavy cavalry. The most famous of which were lead by Takeda Shingen.
This needs a bit more information, especially if you are suggesting to replace Asian knights with âexoticâ battle monks. The militarist monks that are most famous in East Asia are:
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Japanese Sohei in Sengoku Period: Technically the fought in a variety of ways. However, the stereotypical monk warrior wielded a Naginata (Japanese glaive).
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Korean Righteous Army in the Imjin War: They were mostly known as guerilla and irregulars. They would most likely be represented as light melee infantry.
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Shaolin Monks in China: They were used in a military context to a limited extent by various dynasties. But none of the limited text ever referred to them as armoured cavalry. Mostly likely, they were used a âspecial forcesâ or shock troops.
Additionally, most Asian civs have knights or knight-like cavalry. One elite force of the Ming Dynasty was the Guanning Tie-ji (Guanning Iron Cavalry). The Korean Goguryeo dynasty had their own cataphracts. And I already mentioned the Japanese cavalry under Takeda Shingen.
Can we please stop this trend already? There are like 50 threads over this forum and reddit asking for random renames. Renaming has a lot of downsides, and adds little value to the game.
There are a LOT of things which are not historically accurate, or named correctly in the game. This includes techs like El Dorado, unique units like Thirisadai, and generic units like Champions, Arbalesters, Knights, and Paladins. You cannot present a culturally unbiased argument for renaming one thing and not everything else as well. This will just lead us down a pointless rabbit hole.
Readability, both in graphics and labels is extremely important in the game. Pros will need months to adapt to any naming changes. More importantly, this will be a huge handicap for newcomers. I donât want to have to explain to a friend that Iâm introducing to the game that 20 different names refers to the same exact unit. Since there are at least 3 units which do require name changes, thatâs a lot of names just to refer to the same few units.
Age of Empires 2 is a 20-year-old game. This game is older than most TikTokers out there. Iâll bet that most of your kids are younger than this game. Renaming things at this point almost feels like destroying that legacy. It feels like taking aged, fine wine, and carbonating it, just so that it feels different.
There is literally no reason to do any of this. If you want new cool things, come up with something more interesting and useful than this. So please, can we stop this?
I wouldnât be opposed to renaming El Dorado and unique units. That comes with some benefits and very minor downsides.
General name changes could be even be defensible for some general units.
All that is rather different from creating 10 different names for knights, a request of which I still do not see the point.
Heck, Iâm younger than this game.
I definitely think renaming should be limited, but I think the Thirisadai definitely should be, considering the name originates from a Wikipedia hoax. It would be best not to maintain it. Medical Corps should also be renamed, because that also originates from a hoax.
What should be the correct name be?
Khmers did not, Malay did not. Which Dravidians had heavy cavalry?? Medium cavalry is a different thing from knight equivalent. Neither did Ethiopians.
- ########## Chola terinda-Udanilai-Kudiraichchevagar* â Cavalry
How do you differentiate medium cavalry and a knight? If you are basing it on european fully armored cavalry it wont be the same in aisa or other regions.people who are nobels and can afford cavalry is usually a knight.
Current dravidians is an umbrella term including Sinhalese (which are not a dravidian civi historically) the knight equal is a nilame who used horses but did not wear full armor on himself or the horse.
Also ingame indian factions does not have knight line so its pointless to ask this question even.
Outrigger, to reflect the unitâs visuals and the fact that Dravidian-speaking peoples have outrigger technology.
give us some visual evidence.Not just random names.
Give me one source saying south indians did not use heavy cavalry?
Also you skipped the part where I asked how do you differentiate a medium cavalry and a knight.
This is a part of a ship not a ship name ![]()
Okay then. Outrigger Ship. Problem solved.
This could be any ship with an outrigger part how is this a better name for a UU?
There are currently no other ships with outriggers in the game.
If you or someone else is saying the naming is based off a fake article they should have proper source or names for the change not give vague generic names as replacements.
@PeakHornet46539 Still waiting for you to give a an explanation on what is a knight.
Considering we have no actual factual information on the Chola navyâs ships, a vague, generic name is the only option. The amount of specific information about the Chola navy that isnât fraudulent is essentially zero.
This is a contradicting statement on one side you say the ingame name or unit is made up and flip side there are no records of actual ship names or unit.Isnt removing the unit completely is the best option then?
I donât want to remove the unit, because itâs cool. But it needs to have a more historical name, and âOutrigger Shipâ is the best option, matching its appearances and the presence of Dravidian outrigger technology.