there is crossplay in the trailer, where there is a castle and typical AoE2 market, but they are fighting an antiquity civ. Hope AoE 1 and 2 will be one in the future.
Where? Are you talking about the shot where the Legionaries attack a Saracen base. Because all that does is suggest that the Romans are going to be in base AoE2, which I believe is the case.
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yes, that screengrab…
Hmmmm, what you say seems plausible. Hope that ends up opening the path of AoE2 to the rest of AoE1 civilizations. There are antiquity civs in AoE2, like the Huns.
It’s not just plausible, it’s what’s happening. The Romans will be added to AoE2 as a new civ.
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Adding Huns which were finished a few years before 476 is one thing (which shouldn’t have been done, but we got the Attila campaign, so, good, I guess) but the babylonians are waaay outside of the timeline of AoE 2
I don’t know why people mention Goths like an example of antiquity civs if we have Visigoths being destroyed in 711 and Crimean goths were living in Crimea way after that
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Yeah, West Africa is complicated to deal with. There are so many interesting civs in this region both in the Medieval and Modern eras, I think it could be given as many civs as the rest of the continent combined…
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The Gbetos aren’t even from the middle ages, and the weapon they use in the game is actually from Central Africa.
I will concede to them that Dahomey is at least close to the historical reach of the Malian kingdom.
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The problem in your reasoning is that you keep assuming something happened the morning of 476 that automatically made the world shift to middle ages. It’s not that easy also because you argue that byzantines are just Romans so what happened to western Romans once Theodoric took control? Nothing much different from before, he was like a western emperor repairing ancient buildings and appointing consuls… It was byzantines that by declaring war to ostrogoths implicitly admitted that they were usurpers but until then nobody had a doubt that Italy was still part of the Roman empire.
More than that, aoe2 often seems to portray ethnicity rather than dynasties, meaning that the formal end of the western empire was just an end of a dynasty. Roman was never an ethnic designation at least not since the times of Caracalla but if we really wanna look at it in this way we could argue Romans ethnicity disappeared somewhere in the VII or VIII century (Wikipedia goes even further but at that point it has no use for aoe2, I suggest you to check the page about “Roman people” there).
Romans were just an ethnic group among others in early Germanic kingdom indeed you’ll often find Roman names in Visigothic, vandalic and early frankish kingdom. Britons were a mix of Romans and Celts until the Anglo Saxon took control in the VII century. Visigoths even had Roman usurpers in that century. It was a slow process of assimilation until at a certain point Roman identity became insignificant but 476 changed very little in this sense. In my opinion either Constantine’s reign or the end of Roman control over the Mediterranean would be better dates to separate antiquity from middle ages.
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What unit is this?
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Long story short, not even the barbarians knew when the empire fell since they themselves want to become the new Roman “emperor” and that years of migration basically blurs the line between what’s Roman and what’s not.
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Is the aoe 1 horse archer.
Isn’t him the horse archer?
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Heavy Horse Archer has a unique skin now?
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Yeah looks like it got a unique skin.
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Units which had the same skin for upgrade now has new skins.
Its AoE1 Heavy Horse Archer and it seems horse archer and heavy horse archer have different looking model.
Mostly units which shared same graphics, the most powerful version got kind of gilded armors (example phalanx and centurion).
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I want to add my 2 cents after watching the trailer.
First, a bit of a dissapointment on the only single new civ.
I mean most of the players come from Vietnam, so they wanna cash on it obviously, don’t blame them. HOWEVER the game really misses a couple of mesopotamian civilizations (Hurrians, Akkadians, Amorite and couple more), as well as more Roman adversaries (Gauls/Celts, Numidians, Britons).
Second, they advertise the Sargon campaign as Sumerian, even though he is actually Akkadian and the two civilizations speak different languages, worship different gods Sumerians and Akkadians are actually adversaries, not a lot common between them except their close geographic location.
Also, as far as I understood there are no unique units for AOE 1. Quite dissapointing.
I hope in the future they will add the missing civilizations. And they will not create such big historical inconsistencies.
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They never said they were adding any new civilisation so the Vietnamese are a surprise.
Considering the largest fanbase of AoE1 is in Vietnam, I think it’s a gift for those people.
I do hope we see real DLCs for RoR in the future adding new units and technologies too.
And of course new architecture sets.
But everytime we get something there will be people complain we didn’t get something else.
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I’m really hoping that this is only temporary until the civ is potentially more balanced. (Might be a reaction to complaints about the DoI civs)
Because I don’t really see a reason to not have Romans playable on ranked unless it’s a balance concern. Nobody playing ranked really cares if the civ is anachronistic or not.
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It would be a missed opportunity (from a business perspective) to not expand on RoR in the future. At some point, AoE2 will be completely saturated with civs (we already have 42+1!) and also there will be a point in time where every civ has it’s own campaign. Now, RoR will only have 2 or maybe 3 high quality campaigns (not fully confirmed yet) and it’s missing lots of important civs etc., so there is lots of room for new content.
I don’t really understand this move, you can say about the inclusion of the Romans in AoE2 what you want, but restricting them only to singleplayer modes and unranked multiplayer is very weird and feels wrong.
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