I’m playing as Hauds right now but the quickest I can mount a worthwhile attack is around 5:20. What should I do differently? I’ve also played aztecs, but that’s about as quick as I can attack with them also.
Well there’s a build that has you in age2 pre min2 with good food treasure but that lacks any eco at all so…
Even when I do that I can’t seem to get enough shipments to do anything with that age up time. I really need @JuanTheHunter to share some of his wisdom.
lol the amount of lies is huge here. dont make it sounds like people at 900-950 elo age up, rush faster and better than top 100 players pls.
Is this empire wars? Cause that’s the only way someone can mount an attack that early and have even a remote chance at winning. Otherwise minutemen can cancel any 5 -10 unit push.
You should dig up the old threads about ports and CM. So that you know that even without a tower, you can hold rushes easily just by using minutemen.
What’s the game mode and build order?
I main Chinese and reach 1500 ELO, even the fastest BO leads to hit age2 after 4:00
I usually start aging up after having 15 vills, and reach age2 around 4:40 (4 vills build wonder)
You sure you’re playing sup 1v1? The guy you matched up do not build any vill before aging up?
No matter which situation, I can imagine your opponent has a really bad eco.
P.S. I can beat any civs under 1000 ELO even without selecting a deck
No.
If your opponent is an idiot, it will work. But he can just wait until their HP drops. In addition, not a single player has ever fought off 20 streles with Minutemen. That is, if the enemy attacks with skirmishers, the Minutemen are useless. This is heavy infantry.
Yes. His eco was simply terrible. Lower even than mine. But two broken blockhouses in a row is a won game. He just wouldn’t let me build them. So he didn’t need any eco.
Minutemen aren’t heavy infantry. They’re stats are similar to musks, but they don’t counter cavalry, and have no HI tag (meaning skirms don’t do any bonus damage).
You want to bait the enemy right under your TC and use your explorer in melee to snare so they have a harder time walking away after you pop MM on them. Make sure to focus fire on units that aren’t the one you’re hitting with the explorer because you don’t want them to break away from the snaring explorer. Strelets will have a hard time killing the explorer because he isn’t heavy infantry.
Yes, I was mistaken, because I easily killed them with strelets when I attacked the enemy TC. In general, they won’t even repel the strelets.
Good advice. I very often skip this micro and kill the one who is hit in melee. Only in my case the enemy does not try to escape from two blockhouses and TC. He just starts to break them
If he dies too fast you can ransom him for 100c if you have the units coming to be able to do significant damage. 500hp is a lot in age 2 for 20 strelets to handle.
Dude… I’m trying to help you…
And I’m no grandpa, I’m only 62 :v
On what kind of ######## was China playing? For reference, here is an old, yet still pretty legit “age up time chart”, the one made by AussieD.
Most competitive players on any civ will age up between the 4 and 5 minute mark, that is, unless they use a “10 10” strategy or USA’s cheaper age up, or unless they play Deccan (The map with extra resource crates).
Btw, that’s got to be the only explination for such a fast age up and attack, since Hunter says it wasn’t empire wars.
So do I, I can’t mount any attacks before the first 4 minutes… SHARE THY WISDOM HUNTER!
Out of disappointment from this thread, I’ll try to upload a fun RANKED 1v1 winning with Russia, It will take me a bit since I haven’t played much with it recently (I’m rusty AF).
That way, @JuanTheHunter , we can see what I could have made differently, I would love input from other players, I’m looking at you @AssertiveWall20, you have higher ELO than me, and you are friendly to debate with.
Try going full grenadier spam just for the memes
I don’t think I can pull that off at 1380 ELO, sorry mate
Try it enough times and it’ll work!
Minutemen focused volley will one hit most units in age2. With proper micro, explorer plus minutemen and maybe TC fire with 3-4 vils will end any rush.
If you suspect a rush is coming, spread your villagers out so they can’t all be idled at once, don’t use the town bell unless it is an emergency. This is how you hold rushes, 1.01
Ps villagers will beat the smack out of many units in melee mode in 1v1 fights.
I couldn’t show what I wanted, because as soon as I set the “record game” tag, the cheaters stopped playing with me and I won. But it turned out to show what a normal, not “legendary” battle between China and Russia looks like.
Stupid rigged match.
This is what a real one would look like. If only one opponent would have played at 4:30 age up.
Record Game.age3Yrec (10.5 MB)
You wanted this so much, look.
This is not very representative of what I wanted, because it only turned out to be 4:30 for me and even more for my opponent. But I got a bad map.
Ok, so on my first try, I got my “behind” handed to me, but it was SUCH A FUN GAME hahah.
I made the biggest raid ever trying to flip the script in the end, but my own eco was already defeated, here is the recording:
BEST RUSSIAN SNEAK RAID EVER.age3Yrec (11.5 MB)
If you know how to improve this, let me know guys :3
I’ll keep trying.
Not enough grenadiers
No I didn’t watch it, but I already know there weren’t enough grenadiers
5:00 age 2 noob. Your opponent age 4 building HC. You stay age 3 fight. Losing art by cd. No anticav. For what reason you build this trash recruts. Terrible play. Even me win you
water shippments in deck??? How it help you? Age 3 soldier shipment never change the outcome of a battle.
How do you like the work of defensive buildings?
@JordiGarLee vs @JuanTheHunter Showmatch when? Best of 5?