Should more Western civs get the Ottoman treatment and get unique rosters?

Occitan Mousquetaire for French and Fusil Rifleman for Spanish…not ackward at all

you know, it would be easier to just demand unique skins for shared units instead of inventing so awful names

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I never said it should be done and I support unique skins more than full unique rosters.
I’m just proving it could be done and it’s not more awkward than qiang pikeman, meteor hammer, iron flail, gurkha, zamburak, sowar or jungle bowman, because the latter are all very bad already.

Sidenote:
Qiang just means pike.
Meteor hammer and iron flail were rarely used by any regular military, and they are not unit names at all.
Gurkha were from Nepal and were not an important component in early modern Mughal or EIC army.
Zamburak were more Persian than Indian.
Sowar were not a camel unit.
Jungle bowman is as bad as it sounds.
How are they different from the names I proposed?
It’s natural that we only feel awkward when it’s something we ourselves are familiar with. But it has always been this awkward.

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Give the North Americans a generic roster something like…

Infantry:

  1. Stone Warclub
    Stone Warclubs are a generic melee weapon used across North America. The Haudenosaunee would be able to upgrade them to a Tomahawk type unit, with unique stats and stuff, or the Haida would be able to upgrade them into Canoe-Wreckers, which are basically infantry units with flails made of pieces of stone tied to rope that the unit flails around. It’d be like a really small flailephant.
  2. Bare Bow Hunter
    “Bare” is the Native equivalent to “Green” - IE these are green archers, they have little to no battle experience. Having them capable of slowly hunting would be fitting as a Big Button Tech to the Lakota, and the Lakota would be most capable of upgrading them and the Mounted Hunter.
  3. Crackshot Riflers
    This is taken more specifically from Lakota, but the term for gunshot in the distance is “sli hingla,” which can also sorta be translated as “Crackshot”. “Wakina” is a different type of thunder. The Haudenosaunee would have the most upgrades for this unit, making them into something similar to the Forest Prowler they have now.

Cavalry:

  1. Bare Axe Rider
    Ngl, just a generic Axe Rider would work fine here.
  2. Mounted Hunter
    Same concept as the Bare Bow Hunter, but mounted.

Anything past this would be civ-specific, like more cavalry units for the Lakota, or siege units for the Haudenosaunee, or more infantry for the Haida (if they were to be considered for a third North American civ).

It’s also worth noting that each civ would have unique units that could of either gender - the Haida were known to have women use canoe-wreckers, the Haudenosaunee could have male or female Forest Prowlers and siege troops, and the Lakota Mounted Hunter or any mounted Crackshot could be of either gender as well. It’d be more interesting overall to have a cultural region with a more mixed military available to them, if only for flavor purposes.

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It could potentially become a unique unit for the Portuguese in the future, but I just want to clarify for everyone else that the name itself “Burst Mortar” is just something which I came up with myself when I created this thread where I suggested that this triple barrelled mortar, shown in the picture below, could be added to the game. It is therefore not its name from a historical standpoint but just a name that I chose to give to it and which I considered to be better than just calling it the “Triple Barrelled Mortar”.

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Now a number of Euro civs get a unique skin for certain units, how about a unique look for the British Manor?

It could get a face-lift to look like a ‘proper’ Manor house, however I’d say that a Manor was a ‘top tier’ / noble house and you’d only see one or two with the rest being normal houses.
With that said, maybe we can just get the British Manor renamed to Cottage, and give it a classic British cottage look instead?

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Yeah, I always found it to be weird that the unique building of the British didn’t even have a unique model.

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their church also stays the same unlike all other churches that gets a new look in industrial

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Yes, I’m definitely for it!

The name “Manor” doesn’t quite sit well with me in terms of a home for the general population. I think Cottage is a cool name for a British Unique House. Here’s what the building might look like:


Cottage in the Discovery Age


Cottage in the Colonial and Fortress Ages

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Cottage in the Industrial/Imperial Age

British Cottages have nice little gardens surrounded by picket fences - I think this could be included in the models of this building.

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Spot on!

You could even have a Victorian terraced townhouse aesthetic upgrade upon sending the ‘Terraced House’ card, but I’m getting ahead of myself there! Cottages first and foremost please :slight_smile:

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Maybe it will sound too abstract, but maybe an interesting option would be that the Cottages built in series (next to each other in a straight line) could, with the help of “House of Tudor” Home City cards, be merged into one building (terraced building)? Then each Cottage would add +10% to the HP of the entire terraced building.

I think they should focus on a more colonial architecture personally, but I think this idea is also quite grand and I would be more than happy to see it instead.

I never heard of this but it’s not that unintuitive if you know Portuguese. Portuguese ch sounds like English sh and the Portuguese word for archer/bowman is arqueiro (arkeiro). :stuck_out_tongue:

In my opinion French musketeers, grenadiers and voltigeurs look too similar

An idea we discussed before @SirBarnzy1

With some after-thought, I think this change could be viable but with the following changes also implemented:

  • settlers now cost 120 food from TC
  • all settler unit HC shipments are removed from deck
  • a mangrove type building can be built in Age 3
  • a settler pop cap of 80

I’d also like to see the British get a more unique factory with its own unique skin.

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Absolutely - just thought I’d try and bump it up on a recent thread about the new skins to highlight unique buildings that don’t look unique. :grin:

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