Hey guys stop reporting me, i didn’t split topics this is the old one, they banned me many times, and actually the other posts have different ideas you mixed the things and got confused
Great comparison too, since Turks have no bonus to their Cav Archers, yet have the best in the game.
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Mongols and Huns lack the last armour upgrade while Cuman lack bracer. Not only Tatars can play cav archers really conveniently compared to other CA civs but they don’t fall off late game either and they get to be better than generic HCA. Sounds enough in the CA department to me.
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Free upgrades can be very important, and therefore “unique”, if you otherwise can’t afford to research it as is the case with thumb ring (usually too expensive in early castle age). Then you have parthian tactics for free. Not the biggest deal but those add up. One of the major problems of going ca as your main imp unit is the amount of upgrades you need to make them effective. Way less of a problem for Tartars. One more pa also is pretty good and unique. You ca kind of counter arbalest, here, while also being good vs a lot of other units. Then you have more LOS which is nice for taking map control in castle age and for avoiding running into cavalry. The hill bonus indeed isn’t specific for ca but it coheres better with ca compared to most units. So IF there had something to be changed about Tartars (which I’m not convinced of) it certainly does not need to be about their ca (apart from general fixes about ca, of course).
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I really think this cannot be denied. Tatars have very good CAs in all the stages of the game.
We may say that Tatars need some further help, but if any it should not be a CA buff. Maybe some extra eco or some out of the box strategy… bit CAs are fine
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What about making Flaming Camals a available to all members of the team once timurid siegecraft has been researched, similar to genitours and condis, just with the tech as a switch for availability. It could at least open that unit up more in the game for others to use it
Yeah this seems good too, but also they should make it available in the castle age