Suggestion for the Tatars civ for more balance

I guess this would also need to be fine tuned. Still be fast enough to catch micro’d archers maybe?

Tatars have Silk Armor. Not only is that a unique feature, it’s literally a unique technology. Silk armor makes their cav archers just as good as Mongols, Huns, Cumans, & Magyars (until Magyars researches their unique tech).

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So what?! So you are just saying their cav arch don’t have anything special except this unique tech, what is the feature for cav archer it self comparing to huns or mongols?! It is nothing.

They need special feature for their own cav archers, like more hit points or less cost or faster training time.

Ahh, you’re the guy with the ideas for Mamelukes and cataphracts. Now I get it

All those are taken by other civs. They get 2 important CA techs for free, also get +2 LoS and hill bonus

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None of them is unique, i think they should give them +25% hp or 20% faster training time

Who cares loooooooooool, and did you really read the post? Read it well

They have 2 free techs, they get to overpower Huns and Mongols Cav Archers early on, and win on the back of it. The entire game is not maxed up Imp Age 200 pop armies clashing.

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HP is taken by Turks and Vietnamese. Training time is part of Cuman UT. Tatars don’t need more CA related stuff, that’ll just make them one dimensional

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I read it and proved you wrong both times 11

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Well what the unique with Tatars cav arch?! Except the +1pa they are not unique, they need a feature for their cav arch like other cav arch civs

They have it: 2 free upgrades.

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And those techs any one can make them right?! So what after this?!

Then how is extra HP or cheaper cav archers unique? Do you even understand what unique means?

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All what i was asking for is just because they are a cav arch civ then just give them a unique cav archers what’s wrong with you people? Did you understand the point here or not?!!!
Mongols shot 20% faster, Huns have discount even if they are cav civ not cav arch civ!!! Cumans have 50% training faster tech, what the Tatars have as a unique feature for their cav arch?!

IT IS NOTHING !!!

i mean a feature for their cav arch that no one have, like huns or mongols or other civs

I think the best is give them 25% or 30% faster training time or 15% discount starting in castle age

Compared to Magyars and Turk CA which are only distinguished with their unique tech and no bonus, Tatars have UT+ free techs and LOS.
I don’t know why you disregard free thumb ring, it’s a expensive tech in castle age and you get it free immediately

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The Magyars and Turks are not cav arch civ, yeah just simply like that, they are cav civ and gunpowder civ, but when we are talking about Tatars as a cav arch civ actually they have nothing special as cav arch civ for their cav archers!!! Free upgrades does not mean a unique or special feature, it is just saving some goods in the bank nothing else!!! When other civs upgrade those techs there will be nothing special for Tatars cav archers except the +1pa right?!!!

This is why i wrote this post, since they are cav arch civ then give them a special cav archers features and i don’t mind if they remove the free upgrades and made them with cost or one of them and add some features to Tatars’s cav archers, fair or not? What do you think?

Oh? With a viable cavalry UU and a pretty stacked stable, me and my mates hereby name Tatars a Cavalry civ

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