what is the reasoning?
anyways im in a match right now, will leave this forum behind for now
Cavalier and siege for example? Even add some elephants as meat rams to drag arrows?! Why people ignore the decent kinght line for Burmese? And even their elephants are the best against archers with their +1/+1 armor.
cavalier really isnât that good overall.
because cavalier just doesnât hold up well to archers the same way the knight line does.
and how often do you honestly see Burmese elephants used?
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Still an option same for Hussar.
As I said you should use them as meat shields/rams to drag arrows and, 3 or 4 elephants will be more than enough, and this is already how you should use the battle elephants with all elephant civs.
you heard it here guys - light cav said not good options are still options thus should be used.
you think the pros didnât think of this? and they still use other options. hmm. i wonder why.
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If a civ is weak, it can be buffed without receiving a nerf, as long as those buffs are balanced and not op
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@LightCav1413 to be honest, just think about it⊠you are making like 3 posts a day, and in each of its discussion you make lots of claims that are contradictional to each other. Do you think that then we or more importantly the devs will take these posts seriously? You are clearly making assumptions about the current gameplay (instead of having a practise) and youâre not even thinking about your suggestions for a minute before posting. When you start a discussion you should always think about the topic for atleast a half an hour, and in case it is about balance then you should go along thinking about the consequences it would have on civ matchups, general unit usage, etc. but it seems REALLY REALLY OBVIOUS for me (and probably for others), that youâre not doing this thinking.
Of course many of these statements or rather assumptions might be untrue by me, but PLEASE, prove me wrong, because for me (or us) it really SEEMS like youre making posts this way which is very unhealthy for the community, because nearly half of the discussions will be useless, unconstructive, and people wonât be interested and wonât get motivated to take part in the discussions of this forum. Iâm waiting for your answer!
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OMG, you are talking like I should make a long study for balance suggestions like someone go to take Master degree in Space science. Yeah my topic is clear, a civ that have bad match ups most of the time and one of the worst of the game, is this hard to understand? 2nd thing as I said, if you people have an idea then give it rather than mocking or saying no to anything, but you donât. After all what I saw, it seems the people job here is just criticising the ideas rather than giving solutions.
A civ with such a low winrate doesnt need nerfs combined with buffs together. The result could still not work. Or even if it works, it would be harder to tell why.
Thus, I would implement only little buffs, and then, if they became OP, I would nerf their current strengths (arambai, monks, or whatever).
First at all, they need another castle age option besides arambai or the niche monk pushes. I will start buffing that part. An eco bonus, or a dark age defensive bonus, only would make their arambai push even more, so maybe they need a new tech in their techtree or a new civ bonus.
They already have a wood bonus, a infantry bonus good for m@a openings, a strong UU and good monks. Besides elephants (which are not in the best shape) and cavalry, their army looks like a cannon glass, specially their archers. I would push them in that direction only for fun⊠Maybe their mangonels should receive a civ bonus? should their cav archers be affected by manipur cavalry in minor way? Should their archers be affected by barrack techs (squires=movility, arson=sarracen archer bonus, supplies for cheaper hand cannoners)?
No you shouldnât. You should only think for about half an hour before posting (and of course play the game and have a decent practise)
Everyone agrees here on the forums, and even the developers know that burmese have problems with archer civs (someone in the community council confirmed this). You shouldnât make a post just to tell something to people what everybody knows. You should make posts to give solutions to these problems, but when you think about this solutions just for 1 MINUTE, what do you think? People will not critisice? It is VERY HARD to think of a solution, even the DEVS not always come out with the best one, people literally HAVE JOBS to find the best solution for balancing. Then you come here like the person who knows everything, and all the best solutions? Isnât that a bit naiv? People obviously do not make posts that often simply because it is so HARD to find a good solution, not because they donât know about the problemâŠ
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But I already said to people we are here to discuss so give a solution but guess what? No one did. I donât mind listening to people, I already said that, but people didnât reply well, all what they did was cirticising the ideas, if you have something better then yeah lets hear it, because when you keep saying No to everything then what the hell you have?!
When you make 3-4 threads everyday about whatever random idea you get without any thought or research put in to it then people get kind of sick of trying to debate with you. Especially since all you do most of the time is shutdown anyone elseâs opinion and contradict yourself constantly.
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Exactly. it isnât easy to find out exactly what is causing the imbalance in the game is not easy. this is why i only post threads every month or every other month instead of just spamming every day.
Then tell me what people said and suggested before?! You said I am making threads, then you should know that something is wrong right? But guess what? Just scroll down in this forum what do you see?! Do you see balance suugestions?! Because all I see is that people keep asking for more civs and keep asking for the new DLC and suggest civs for next DLC and many other ridiculous suggestions.
Yes they are and most of them are almost as ridiculous as yours⊠almost. You are just the loudest one of them. You constantly post whatever balance change you dreamt up and call it a day. Its pretty clear to the devs that Burmese need a buff. So why not leave up to them? Your not some AOE god thats come to cleanse us of our quickwalling sins, your just a person who thinks he understands the game better than the people who made it. The game was fine for 13 years without any balance changes and even after HD they werenât as frequent as they are now.
what do you expect when you only support your solution with that âthis civs is weak/strongâ? when you give + armor, or attack for a unit you should always check how will that unit interact with all of its common opponet unit, and then tell it to us in the post (often can be done in scenario editor). You should also take in account each age, whether they have blacksmith upgrades (also take in which upgrades do people go for usually), etc. It undoubtably requires a lot of testing. You never do this, no surprise your posts are often critisized
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occasionally. most people take time to evaluate the issues and collect there thoughts. look at my history and youâll see I post topics every couple months. this is because Iâd rather collect my thoughts, evaluate the issues with lots of data, and go from there.
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100% required for a good balance post
I also donât think the way to approach balance is to buff a unit 4 different ways.