Hello guys, I’d like to say that the Swedish Civilisation Strength has to be strengthened, as the Caroline Infantry is now nerfed with only one armour defence. Also Sweden has no dispersal again the second age and the hp of leather cannons is very scarce plus very slow. From time to time they got out of column and got mowed down by the cavalry or defeated by the Japanese ryuji horses and Aztec arch warriors. I think there should be three options to beef it up a bit.
The first option, I think Karl desperately needs to add a long range defensive armour, but of course the price can be raised to the point where he won’t be killed so easily by skirmishers.
Second option, put the Hessian riflemen into second age training, in which case it would be acceptable, and of course the price could arguably be considered part of the reinforcement.
Third option, beef up the Leather Cannon, at the very least by adding blood or long range defensive armour and speed, it would have to be the same speed as the Napoleon Cannon to make it work. I think reinforcing one would even be a great favour to Sweden.
We always get 3/4 or 2/3 Sweden in the same team in a game. Is this not great enough for Sweden?
And you choose worse unit carolean + LC not pike + Jaeger…
I think this is just the result of the team battle, and I want to discuss the 1v1.
You want to make them great in 1v1, so they should be more ruining the team gameplay?
Follow the forum people here said, if you think this civ is weak, just don’t pick it, play other civs.
We’re going in a different direction, you can look at Sweden’s winning percentage.
Plz explain Aztec got several huge nerf but win rate didn’t drop.
Italian got almost low winrate several patches ago, most of people were saying they are UP, finally Revnak needed to play by himself and achieve italian 90% win rate to prove most people wrong, what can win rate tell?
And you are not going different direction, you changes directly affect all game mode.
Sweden is actually in the best place it’s ever been balance-wise now.
That being said, if there are to be buffs, ALWAYS go very small.
To offset some of the hackapellit nerfs, I’d say give them a base HP +5 and base attack +1.
Then have torps build time reduced by 1 second. This sounds small but scales so their overall eco will be slightly better.
The Aztecs have been weakened, but the second age infantry is still tough, and when I fought the Aztecs earlier their stone throwers still managed to beat Sweden with only Caroline.
Why should a mass of caroleans be in melee with cav in the first place? They got 15 range in age 3 with a multiplier and some of em can shoot constantly ontop of their improved firerate-
Ontontin are a SKIRM of course they beat the heavy infantry?
Not only that they are a skirm with a wood pricetag!
You’re right, but Caroline can’t beat cavalry in melee, and I’ve been using Swedish Civilisation for the last while. I’ve found that when I come across civilisations with the likes of archers or stone throwers Caroline is very difficult to deal with.
So it was a major mistake for Sweden not to have a skirmisher in the second era.
The cavalry just need to hold off Caroline. The musketeers will do the rest.
Aztec units are almost all unit underpower.
Oto slinger is supposed to counter carolean.
Why not try to use Aztec to beat others?
I gave up Aztec they are too suck and join Sweden too. As I have shown I change to use Sweden now.
If you can’t beat, just join.
Also may be you can try to learn Aoe3 counter system first?
I’m just curious as to why you keep stressing the need for a strong civilisation? Is this a major blow to the balance of the game if everyone is using this civilisation? Secondly I know about the direct unit restraints, so could this be exploited for a Sweden with only Caroline infantry?
But you have? The crossbow exists.
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People here suggest if you think the civ is weak, just change another one strong to play. You will be happier.
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Sweden is top civ in team even >2000 elo players I am playing with have almost no way to deal with, and you are asking buff them will make team game completely more unplayable. (Although they are already near unplayable level right now).
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Why can’t you use Aztec?
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Sweden unit system is design failure since DE, but dev won’t have any mistake so this is kept.
Are you sure Caroline can stop the cavalry from mowing down the crossbowmen?
How about you, a team game mode player, stop telling me what to do? We’re not even players in the same game mode.
I told you many times already?
You think Aztec is strong, Sweden is weak, then just use Aztec.
I think Sweden is strong, Aztec is weak, so I give up Aztec and use Sweden, I am happy with Sweden now, it lets me ruined many games by just spamming pikes with always top one eco.
But you still prefer suffering with your weak Sweden and refuse to use Aztec.
I also proved I changed to Sweden now, how about you?
What can I say?