ok to be clear the root problem is inflation and smurfs maybe the alt f4er but mainly the other 2 things
secondly like i said it wont be a large portion of player and i dont think people will be forced to play on voobly because in this game that existed since 1999, 21 years it is vital that map variety is a fundemental thing that should exist and should be key
The root cause is that the map rotationâs management isnât all that good to begin with. A lot of the times the maps that end up in the rotation donât have a high variety (sometimes even 4-5 versions of the same map arch-type). For team games specifically, the other root cause are people who queue up for team games by themselves. There needs to be better ways to encourage players to queue up to team games as a part of a team, because they get more bans (so less ALT+F4) and also because pre-mades tend to ALT+F4 less, since it usually requires the consensus of the whole team â as most people wouldnât just quit on their team.
then it wouldnât happen often, and we wouldnât be here talking about it 
ok i definetly agree with the variety of maps and certain map varients that appear to often
i think yes as it is vital that you should also be encouraged to queue tg ranked solo but the fundamental problem is if you have more bans that dishes out the chance to hit any criteria and increase the queue time aswell as it seems that yes favoriting one map and ban one map you dont wanna play is important i encourage to try the variety if they exist rather then wait and queue for one map and have an 30 + queue time
quickly wanna add that more bans wouldt diminish alt f4 conpletly because everyone who wanna play only one map at one point gonna be frustrated if they have to wait 40 minutes
I rather sit in the queue for a few more minutes than get a map I donât want to play⊠and I am sure that many people agree⊠Getting a fast game that I donât want to play is objectively worse than waiting a bit for a better one.
Yes, this is the main case where I agree with @WoodsierCorn696 that such player need to move to lobby. Cause there is no way to make playing only one map compatible with a rotation of mapsâŠ
As the title says i would like to suggest a small Queue Ban for ppl who alt+f4 when they dont like a map.
In other games like league of legends its normal that if u dont like ur teammates or ur favorite champ gets banned and therefore u dodge the game u cant queue directly after again, but need to wait like 5minutes (and if it happens a lot of times even longer).
I would wish the same for aoe2. It can be super frustrating to sit in queue for 30min and find like 5 games, but every game someone dodge it because he dont like the map.
A 5min queue ban wouldnât hurt super much, but some ppl might then just play the map instead of dodge and queue directly again until they get their most loved map.
Whatâs ur thoughts about this?
Edit: I would suggest it for both 1vs1 and TG, but most needed it is in TG i think.
Requested many times before and i like the idea. Many other games also have such system. Not only for dodging games, but also for early leavers as well. Just within 5 minutes of game time. Something like that. There are some player that just Alt F4 in the first seconds to lower their rating. We need the same system for those quitters as well.
I also would advice the devs to implement an increasing ban time if you get banned more frequently.
People who are picky about maps should just play single-player.
You forgot the lobby, that is still an option as well.
Donât like it. I heard by now you lose rating if you dodge queue (havenât tested it myself) but I really dislike temporary bans for leaving/queue dodging etc.
Maybe for team games, these can be introduced, but for 1v1? nah completely unnecessary.
as far as i am aware u dont lose any elo for dodging a queue/game only once in actually in it.
and this topic is for both 1vs1 and TG but mainly for TG
the ladder in his actual state is slowly killing TGs. people dodging games without punishment only brings less games and a worst experience overall.
At the moment no dev has said anything about this or about MMR for premades.
only solution is to play 4v4 in SC2 where those problems donât exist.
No, MS needs to fix the map ban system.
If I donât want to play a map, Iâm not going to spend 30 mins to an hour playing that map. This is especially the case when a map pool is all tryhard maps (like it is now, with all these new ones) and I canât ban enough to avoid them. Unranked doesnât have a rank and there are no points at stake, so the level of effort is too low and it isnât a good alternative.
Stop asking the overlords to punish the game players for a lousy system they implemented. Give me the option to play my fast castle maps when I want a more chill and thought out game, and give other players the option to go tryhard with micro when they want a tense game picking off villagers.
Ever heard about the lobby? Seems like that is the fix for your issue. You can play whatever map you want.
If you join the ranked queue, then you agree with the settings and you have to deal with those. If you dont agree with the settings, then just dont join the ranked queue. You waste the time of other players by just quitting.
Ban sistem for tg was a bad idea.
I donât want to play megarandom, niether black forest, niether nomad niether continental.
I get one of those and I simply quit. I donât like to play on those maps. And I am not the only one.
I guess you didnât read everything I wrote thereâŠ
Anyway, tryhards hit alt-f4 when they see black forest, arena, or hideout. My team hits alt-f4 when we get a tryhard map. If one of the teams is almost always unhappy with the maps the queue is choosing, the problem isnât everyone, its the queue system.
tryhard maps
Please pick one. Either you try to win, or you are not.
i agree with the others either u want to win a game and tryhard or u want to chill
No, the difference is macro vs micro. I prefer to win with macro.
I personally think its lousy to win by laming and teaming up to be a pest against one player. I want the option to play a map where those things are more difficult to do.
No. When I say tryhard I mean that someone is trying to play like the streamers. Not everyone enjoys that.
Fair enough, but no need to call others tryhards. You prefer closed maps, other people prefer open maps. Simple as that.