What do you think about a separation of civs like the India DLC had for the Italians? I mean, separate the Italians into (for example, not the 5 in 1) Venetians, Genoese, Tuscans, Milanese and Potificians. If you like or not the idea, tell us why.
I honestly don’t think we need 6 (okay, 5,3., I’ll be generous and count Sicilians as part French and part Scandinavian as well) civs for that little appendage of Europe. That seems to go pretty far beyond the scope of Civilizations in this game.
I’m partially sympathetic to an eventual Venetian split, but that’s quite low priority. As for the other city-states or regions of influence, obviously not. Like the Italians, you can make a decent argument for splitting the Mayas into 2 civs, although I don’t think that’s necessary. But imagine how ridiculous it would be if I were to advocate for separate civs for each of the major Maya city states - Tikal, Calakmul, Palenque, Bonampak, Mayapan, Chichen Itza, Copán, Kaminaljuyu…totally unnecessary.
In any case, at least 12-16 African, American, and Asian civs should be added before a further Italian split even becomes a half-worthwhile consideration. So…come back in 5 years or so and we can reevaluate this proposition.
Although at least for a certain period of time the italian city states were kinda autonomous their overall influence imo wasn’t large enough to justify seperate civs. Also culturally they were less distinct than some of the other umbrella civs currently existing in the game. So spitting something like chinese or saracens would make more sense imo. Lastly, from a gameplay perspective I don’t see a reason for such a split either. Italians is a pretty coherent and well-rounded civ with two UU that might not be seen a lot on arabia but are pretty common on other maps making the civ different from other generalist civs with archer focus.
I’d rather see splits of other civs first. China is one of the biggest that people want, after some DLCs elsewhere European civs that are umbrella-y can get split as well.
But design-wise, what would even happen? Would Condotierri become a regional unit (and not part of a team bonus, so no Teuton/Malian Condos?), or what? With the Indians, at least you could feel like they tried to do so many things and could be split (justifiably so), what design-wise would happen with Italians?
You’re right to be fair. When I first read it I thought they were saying Italy should be split because India was, but upon reading it I suppose it is more like they’re saying it could be split in a similar way to how India was, without suggesting that the two are equivalent.