The new map pool sucks

Age of Empires II: DE II - Discussion
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@Zatekusen
Your argument is invalid as you simply cannot do this in a 4 vs 4.

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well according to steam 10-12k play aoe2 de every day. I dont know if users from microsoft store are counted in that number. But I think this is enough of a player base to offer more maps in the pool and more bans. If you want to play just a few maps and ban the rest, then you should be ready to wait longer.

The problem is that unranked lobbies s_ck because there is no way to limit a smurf from joining a noob’s lobby. At least they should show the player’s ELO in the lobby so that people can see what kind of player is joining. Then the ranked match making also s_ck for new players because they are not allowed to choose the maps they are comfortable with while learning the game.

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The best solution is probably to make similar match-making as voobly. The player decides if the game is ranked or not. Can limit joining players according to ELO and can choose any map they want. Just list the games in the lobby instead of automatic matching

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Don’t we want to know if people are good at AoE 2 DE, not just good at one particular map?

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i dont care if someone is good at aoe or at one particular map. All i care is to enjoy the games that I chose to play, not that the system chose for me to play.

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This game is Age of Empires 2. Age of empires 2 has many different maps with different play styles required for each. Ranked is where you show the world how good you are at Age of Empires 2, which requires a diverse skillset that allows you to adapt to your current conditions, including whatever map you land on.

It’s not a problem for new players to force them onto maps that require different play styles, if they can’t adapt they will just lose untill they face someone else who can’t adapt.

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Dale are you kidding?!!. Unranked play is terrible. The competitive community wants ranked play on maps that are fun. There’s absolutely no good reason that instead of banning maps users shouldn’t be able to choose which maps they want to play on. If you want a faster game, select more maps. To the losers who say you could have people get high rank who only play a single map, who the f&@% cares! This isn’t college admissions it’s a game. Pros will play the maps that tournaments have. Make AoE2 Fun Again! MAFA!

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I think the main reason why people complain is because it’s not fun to play the long game if you’re not a noob. When you can only play a game or two a night and you get a ■■■■ map, it sucks. I think they should either let users just pick the maps they are willing to play or make all the maps more open. They need to figure out a way to give players their choice back.

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No we want to play a competitive game on the maps we respectively enjoy. This isn’t some high school curriculum where we are trying to get people to be well-rounded AoE2DE players. We want to play what we think is fun! Bring back player choice!

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(1) Black forest and Nomad are still better than Highland and Oasis. (2) If you really hate them that much you can ban them both in a 1v1 and one of them in any amount of players other than 4v4.

The new map pool is AWESOME. It’s lots of popular multiplayer maps plus megarandom.

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Lol, if you’re going to leave ANY version of AoE2 for your PS4 then I can’t really take your thoughts on the game seriously, tbh . . .

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If you had a ban for 4v4 then it would be possible for all 8 maps to be banned.

So, it’s not weird!

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If you had a ban for 4v4 then it would be possible for all 8 maps to be banned.

so you are assuming that at any time there are only 8 players in the whole world looking for a 4v4

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No, I’m saying that if you had a ban for 4v4 then it would be possible for all 8 maps to be banned.

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It’s infinitely better than the original map pool.

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well then this particular group 8 people that banned 1 different map each will simply not be matched together.

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Go play your PS4, lol.

And I can just ban Arena and BF if I dislike them :stuck_out_tongue:

But, personally, I’ll be banning Nomad, Team islands and Megarandom. I prefer land maps.

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I’m just saying that that is why the bans are organized that way.

It’s also why 1v1s have 3 bans instead of 4. Because if 1 player had 4 bans then the other player could ban the other 4 and there would be no map to play on.

And it’s why there is 1 ban for 2v2 and 3v3.

And I’d rather have it this way than have less games available due to all the maps being banned sometimes.

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They already allow 3 bans. Have you at least tried?

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Yes, but having a system that makes the player base lower and lower is even worse.

They’re trying to adjust if it’s too hard for u to notice. They’re doing what they can to find the issues, they just haven’t realised yet they’re looking in the wrong place. If they weren’t listening to people’s feedback we wouldn’t have the 4 most asked for maps in the pool (aka arabia, arena, nomad and bf).
also for someone who doesn’t like to waste time complaining u’re wasting a lot of time complaining

  • points at all those people complaining abt BF

I feel like some stuff winterstarcraft teaches in his videos also apply to this game. We all know when we start playing a game we’ll suck at first, but sometimes we forget that our opponent also sucks at first. At the end of the day even if the map sucks and u’re not playing at home, ur opponent will be in the same situation, not knowing wtf to do. And then this is where it comes the most important stuff: be4 u start worrying abt beating ur opponent u need to beat uself, aka learn to play the game and avoid making mistakes. If u start doing that well, eventually u’ll beat ur opponents because u did less mistakes than they did. Then once u get it going u can start thinking abt counters and other stuff. As long as u start to learn the basic and start to learn to adapt u’ll start getting into places. (and tbh? i feel like the main reason so many people complain abt the current maps is because they’re used to only playing their same build over and over again and don’t know how to adapt if things suddenly change. I for example am not a fan of water maps, does it mean the right thing to do is to just avoid any water map at all cost? wouldn’t it be better if i learned how to adapt to that situation? even if I’m not the best at water maps doesn’t mean I shouldn’t try and take advantage of it. ofc I won’t be as good at first but it doesn’t mean I should straight up not make a dock and then eventually die to someone who made some fishing ships and then got a better economy than me)

This pretty much sums up what I just said. Even if it’s not interesting, it’s still playable.

hey devs #ShowTheELOInLobbies

Pretty much. This would have been the easiest and safest thing to do.

Ranked games should be played on maps that are balanced, not just fun. Ik that unranked sucks atm, but that doesn’t mean we should try and transform ranked into the new unranked. If unranked is a problem, then they need to fix unranked. Having players who wanna play unranked being forced to play ranked is an issue in itself.

I feel like ur entire argument lost a lot of strenght the moment u wrote “plus megarandom”