The new Portuguese are broken

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@AbuzzJam4677680

I would rather remove the wood bonus but not rework of OG as the wood bonus does not really fit the theme

I once made a proposal to instead change the Feitoria.
So the Feitoria becomes a single placable building available from Castle age.
This would leave Portuguese with a kinda slow start but a unique Economic option in Castle age.

I still like this idea more than the current wood bonus as it would not only solve the issue with the current Feitorias but at the same time make it a big part of the Portuguese Identity as a whole.

Theorycrafting the Feitoria

I recently look deeper into the Portuguese, try to understand what holds them back and how to balance them. As the Protuguese are a complex case, i will take me more time to get deeper into it. Feitoria on the other hand is actually easier. As you can practically theorycraft it. You can compare it with other forms of ressources income at different stages of the game. The first thing to look at its potential late-game winning scenario. When all ressources are taken off the map, the feitoria is …

@Geojak92

If you think organ guns are broken in Castle age, then you guys should see janissary. Or am I missing something?

Ofc the Organs only begun to show their strength with the Berry/Wood bonus. As this bonus allows Portuguese to go up at least 1 vill earlier than the others. Jans and Conqs also cost food and are therefore not as easy to spam like the organs.
Lastly Portuguese can survive a not so successfull all-in even more likely than turks or spanish thanks to the Feitoria.
And lastly thanks to their Gold Discount Portuguese already have access to a huge variety of power units including one of the strongest Monk/Siege Pushes in the Gane.They don’t need the Organs in their current state as a “win more” unit.

Organ Guns on their own probably wouldn’t be problematic. It’s really mostly just that in conjecture with the current Portuguese civ design they look a bit overkill for that civ in what they do.
Also imo the design doesn’t makes sense. Organ Guns which only shoot one single bullet that deals full damage every 3.45 seconds? Either let it shoot a salve with all bullets dealing full (but lower than current) damage or in rapid succession.
And this then would open to give a unit that has similar damage output potential like the current Organs to a new civ that otherwise doesn’t has the best Arena play.
We already have 42 civs we don’t need a civ like Portuguese that has such a wide spread of bonusses all applyable to different strats on a single map. Spread it out a bit.
Portuguese already have the cheaper Monks, Siege and Archers. They have their Arquebus UT. And they have the Feitoria. Organ Guns on Top of that are just a bit too much imo.