The unfinished nature of the DLC gets worse

[Tyranno13]

Someone mentioned that the new “civs” are all in the history section. So I went to take a look.

Before getting to the topic at-hand, I looked at the Three Kingdoms civs, and a Three Kingdoms mini-section. First, all the sections about the “civs” is about the characters, nothing about the actual civs themselves (not surprising, as there is nothing to say when they are all just Chinese).

What is kinda funny is the three kingdoms section even admits these are not separate civs, and are just continuations of the Chinese.

But as to the title. I checked the Jurchen and Khitan sections. They are the only two civs in the game to have recycled art that does not depict them. The Jurchens use pictures of Chinese soldiers from the Art of War section. And the Khitans use pictures of Mongols from the Genghis Khan campaign.

I guess that does match the sloppy lack of voice lines…

[RealMatrim2]

@Tyranno13

What is kinda funny is the three kingdoms section even admits these are not separate civs, and are just continuations of the Chinese.

Then Microsoft had copied “civilization variants” from Age of Empires 4 into Age of Empires 2.

@Tyranno13

I checked the Jurchen and Khitan sections. They are the only two civs in the game to have recycled art that does not depict them.

This 3 Kingdoms DLC seems to be a disappointing upon a closer inspection for precisely these reasons. I can not understand, the sloppy handling of the Jurchens and Khitans. And let us not forget the deletion of the Tanguts and, to a lesser extent, the Xianbei. A real shame.

I hope, that the developers make a “2th China DLC or precisely says a Reconciliation DLC” with a historically accurate portrayal of the Jurchens and Khitans, and not borrowing from the Chinese and Mongols. But the given realities of Microsoft so far, the likelihood of this happening is slim. Unfortunately.

[Akoskaaa10]

Art of War: Defending Against a Rush:

Genghis Khan: 4. The Horde Rides West:

Bumping this thread up with evidence.

[Tyranno13]

Thanks! That’s perfect.

[_Dustyacer1]

@Akoskaaa10

Genghis Khan: 2. A Life of Revenge:

i mean this one is a bit different. definately has inspiration but its definately not the same or a copy.

[Tyranno13]

It’s likely a copy of a different Genghis Khan level. Or another level where Mongols or Tatars appear.

[Akoskaaa10]

I’ve just found the same art in Genghis Khan 4 and edited my post.

[CitingOregano34]

Ofc they reuse art, because they don’t have a campaign lol

All history section art uses drawings from cutscenes, and since there’s none for Khitanguts and Jurchens, they have to use something else

[cucuct]

[Akleoni]

How can be the free patch wonderful and the paid DLC so unpolished???

It’s truly astonishing what they’ve done this time.

[SMUM15236]

@CitingOregano34

Khitanguts

Thank you. Can we all agree to make it official?

[Enejereek]

They couldnt even use relevant slides, like say the ones for Kushluk. Just random images haphazardly picked.

[CitingOregano34]

That’s the problem: Kushluk ruled over the Khitan people, but not over the Khitanguts! Thus, he’s not used as the image…

[cucuct]

@Akoskaaa10

Art of War: Defending Against a Rush:

Technically this was intro slide 4 for Genghis Khan 3 Into China. In Art of War it was a reuse.

[KHANATTILA]

@Tyranno13

I guess that does match the sloppy lack of voice lines…

Clearly last-minute additions. Maybe two DLCs were planned and Microsoft cut the budget. So it all came out together and then the end.

[TungstenBoar]

Thry should have Geneghis as their image since he ruled over all these lands

Lets actually make Genghis Khan appear in every image of civs conquered by the Mongols

[FurtherLime7936]

Haaa

I remember since DE launch until DOTD release, Lithuanians were recycling one art from Tariq Campaign as well

[Tyranno13]

@FurtherLime7936

I remember since DE launch until DOTD release, Lithuanians were recycling one art from Tariq Campaign as well

Recycling is fine, so long as the context is right.

Like, need art of Frankish cavalry charging in two different campaign slides? No problem copying.

Copying a completely different culture and trying to pass it off as another one though…that’s low.

[Skadidesu]

Wild theory:
What if the DLC is not finished yet?

The AoMR beta had some pretty major differences compared to the release version despite being relatively close to the release. Including redoing every single god image.

I would hold my horses until the actual release of the DLC in 3 weeks.
Plenty of time to add new images and voice lines.

[CitingOregano34]

On a positive (?) note, somewhat related to this topic… The wiki acknowledges that people are calling the weird, unfinished Khitan civ as “Khitanguts”. Can we count this as a win of sorts? Pyrrhic victory?

I know it’s run by fans but at least this is getting a bit more coverage, I guess.