Top 3 units need be nerfed serius

Arguably, no other civ has to pay 150 res for their only available skirm.

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I don’t get why they need to train them at all, it’s way too micro intensive. Maybe they should just get a free abus with every shipment?

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Obviously we’ll spawn them in a sipahi/abus banner from the sultan, a new ottoman unique hero(not enough unique stuff for otto) that acts like a shogun helping ottos army get more.hp. free with age up to compensate that otto merely has a mosque to increase xp generation compared to spains civ bonus

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As long as that hero auto respawns. We don’t want to make it difficult for otto players to micro them.

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He should just get instantly revived on the spot

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It has been shown how broken the chinacos are in this and many other publications, you should think/inform yourself better before giving those opinions that do not contribute anything to the discussion. I think it is one of the few consensuses that the community has reached.

For me it is abus guns, sipahi, and bosniaks. Late game fully carded i nominate Janissary, nizam fusiliers and azap as well.

The only unit not from Otto is bosniaks. They get the same promotion no matter if they killed a cheap unit or expensive unit. They get the same promotion after killing a strelet or sipahi. That’s not fair because against Russia, Aztecs and China it is super easy to get full promotion. Especially Chinese which lacks reliable anti cav.

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why? i cannot use the forum as it is?

every units except standard vills and standard musketeers are too gimmicky too me and should be ban from aoe3de.

not joking

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Funny how 90% of problems come from a single card that was originally created without semi-Lancers in mind

I’m not trying to be toxic but seriously just get good.

If you think Royal Horsemen are OP and Highlanders you’re clearly just a soyboy that got spanked by a Dutch Merc build.

Get good. Royal Horsemen suck, use pikes to win, or halbs. Or your own superior musks. You can just spam musks and win vs both these units. You should be able to pump out twice as many musks.

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Yo lo que hago es usar espías contra las masas de mercenarios. Si viene con artillería hago culebrinas o caballería. Hay una carta para mejorar los espías pero es muy ocasional, tienes que estar muy seguro de que el holandés enemigo vendrå full mercenarios

Royal horsemen and highlanders in mass are really only a problem in treaty or extreme late game cause dutch can abuse the 2 extra free banks they now get from coffee trade without penalty.

Another unneeded change. How many buffs Dutch have received in a row??

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I wouldn’t say late-late game since then the enemy will be lategame aswell. It’s usually a time where dutch is the only one age5 and has the best eco to just spam it enough to fill their increased pop and abuse Royal Horsemen area damage and special trampe mode. In treaty Dutch mercs will just lose because it eats up their coin in no time

By supremacy standards imperial age is pretty late late game.

Here we go again. Chinaco and the entire civ hasn’t stopped receiving nerfs since DLC came out.
This is a problem of unit management, 20 chinaco seems very little but its about 4000 resources invested!

You would need to make about 40-50 regular pike to counter that ammount of lancer cav.

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Its not that easy, if you run into a wall of dragons or pikemen the chinacos have nothing to do.
[Note: YOU MUST EQUAL THE VALUE OF THE UNITS / 20 CHINACO EQUALS 4000 RESOURCES]

Like a moth to the flame.

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pikemen? Vs fully carded Chinacos? lol