not really, and it cuts down on the number of threads that are active and makes it less spammy.
first of all thatâs DM, they rarely make balance changes based on DM as itâs just not that popular and very hard to balance around. most DM tournaments go mirror match because of this.
second of all, my guess is the game wasnât very high level
thirdly, DM just doesnât play out the same way as the far more common random map. when all units are available right from the start it makes for vastly different gameplay then if you have to build them when you get to them.
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Not even close. Unless you mean specifically Arena? Then maybe, but even then, just maybe.
I would just try nerfing the 50% tech discount to 40% or maybe 33% and that should be probably enough to bring it in line.
??? you can have like 4 on food and still win the game, typical mayan winning eco⊠usually strongly resembles a Hoang winning eco
And you told me you are 1k7/1k8 1v1. Sure, bud, Burgundians are op but Chinese arenât 11
This is already what are we doing here.
Maybe to you, I donât see them OP. IMO both of Mayans and Aztecs are more annoying than Chinese.
they are pretty much an auto ban by most pros.
Same for Mayans and Aztecs. Chinese are S tier and I agree they need a nerf, but calling them OP is just dumb. All S tier civs need a nerf, but when you look at Burgundians then indeed they are OP, it seems those guys donât know even what is the meaning of âOPâ.
Literally every 2k+ says they are thr best arabia civ atm 11
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Yeah, again, there is a different between âgood civâ and âOPâ ones.
If chinese are not op burgundians canât be op since they are not even close to them.
Chinese are by far the strongest arabia 1v1 civ. Thry are not âgoodâ. They are op. They are not simply S. They are the best of the S civs
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OP is overpowered or âhaving too much powerâ. Burgundians arent overpowered, they are just badly designed
Chinese are OP in Pro level games
Listen KIDI donât care about your stats
Do you see this table? It is KOTD3 table for some civs and winrate, your Chinese got 46% winrate, Franks 71%, Vikings 58%, Lithuanians 53%, Huns 60% and your Chinese were in top 5 picks.
Do you know what is the meaning of OP or not?! You know what?! IMO meso civs are more OP than Chinese.
i thought the topic was about burgudians
equalizer here should chill a bit and focus on the main topic
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Me too! I thought the topic was about Burgundians! LOL!
As a matter of fact, Chinese either won or banned in every game in hidden cup 4 main event.
(Edit: 2 games they are picked but not used. Never lost.)
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meh Chinese are more OP than burgundians. Maybe meso civs are better than burgundians but meso civs are also definitely more OP than burgundians. Burgundians are seldom picked in tournament nowadays.
(I doubt Burgundians are P/Bed 50% time. I am pretty sure Chinese and Azetcs are both always PBed)
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Burgundians case is different, their gameplay is different, their UTs and bonuses are OP, their eco bonus alone without Flemish revolution is OP.
Actually Chinese economy is no worse than Burgundians, at least in open maps. (Again 2 vills is EXTREMELY huge esp. in open maps.) Also you have to take the civ as a whole, and as a whole Burgundians is not OP if Chinese is not OP.
So Burgundians with their 50% eco and age before and 50% discount stables and Fmilitia and farms make gold and relics make food is not OP and Chinese yes? I wonder how you people look at the things around.