This is a melee cavalry unit that deploys a short-range, highly-inaccurate stream of fire to attack. This attack deals heavy damage while active, and can continue to attack as long as the initial attack is unbroken, but after the first attack ends, needs a short pause(~10 seconds) to reload. Attacks made in the meantime will instead do a much weaker standard melee attack.
This is a 100% historically accurate unit, and was used to great effect against the mongols.
I was thinking it could go with a more specific Chinese civ, something like the Jin or Song dynasties.
Perhaps something like this:
Jin Dynasty
Fire Civ
+1 Archer melee armor per age(starting in dark, +4 in imperial)
All fire effects are stronger. (Chemistry gives +2 rather than +1, Heated Shot and Arson are 50% more effective, Fire Ships deal more damage)
Town Bell gives villagers a brief speed boost when fleeing/returning to work.
Taxes - Each House produces a small trickle of gold. The longer the house has been alive, the more gold it produces, up to a cap(about 20 minutes). Damaged houses do not produce gold.
I think this would be a nice way to throw people’s expectations into disarray. House walling? Only if you want to risk your gold. Town bell? A good thing for once! Killing archers with melee? I think not!
And, of course, a cavalry unit that shoots frickin’ fire beams!
I’ll admit, this is a very silly civ. But fun! And(somewhat) historically accurate!
Sure. That’s not inherently a problem, though. If anything, it’s a weakness. They have little in the way of other eco bonuses, and it means that unlike other civs, rather than using houses as walls, they need to protect their houses.
Sure, that’s the idea. Of course, because the value increases as the houses get older, the first houses they build will be the most important, meaning rather than being able to build them forward, you’ll need to build them back. Or you could build them forward, but risk losing a big chunk of your best gold production just as it becomes most important.
I’m not talking about ridiculous gold production, here. I’m thinking like, an extra relic or two equivalent for all your houses.
Sorta, but better at pitched battles, since its power increases the longer it can stand still and attack a single target. It runs forward and unleashes a fireship-style stream of fire for as long as it’s attacking that one target. It wouldn’t be particularly good against villagers, since they’ll run away immediately and it’ll be forced to move and reload. Particularly good against siege and decent against buildings.
The reason I made it +4 is because archers are already so weak to melee, too small a bonus could seem insignificant. I’d certainly be open to tweaking it down(or up) if it seems underpowered.
That could work. I was counting on the weakness of houses to work as their counterbalancing feature. They’re easy enough to destroy, especially lategame, and getting even a few rams into their housing district could be a really major blow. And then they’d either need to delete them or repair them, but the idea being that repairing is better than rebuilding, because the gold/minute increases gradually, so an older house is always better than a newer one. Building more houses would need to be a pretty conscious decision, because they wouldn’t pay for themselves for quite a long time, and the wood and villager time could well be spent elsewhere. I’d be open to an increased cost for the houses if necessary, but given their lack of other civ bonuses, I’m not convinced that’s gonna be needed.
They’d be particularly weak to civs like the Huns, because their tarkans could run in and destroy their vils AND their houses at the same time.
Cav Archers get +1 range in Castle age, +1 range in Imperial Age.
Petards 25% cheaper
Stable units attack 20% faster
Livestock pen instead of mill.
Cavarly Archers fire 20% more accurately
New mechanic: herdables instead of farms. Cost 60w. Start with 175food. Fatten at a rate of 0.2. If garrisoned at the livestock pen increase this to 0.5. Max food is 450.Max number of sheep is 30.
B. Team Bonus:
Trade carts have +1/+1 armor
C. Tech Tree
Barracks: No Longswordsman, no pikemen, no eagle warriors.
Archery: No Thumb ring, no elite skirmishers
Stable: No battle elephants, no paladins, no hussars
Dock: No Shipwright.
Monastery: No faith, no block printing, no theocracy, no redemption, no heresy
Castle: Full
Siege Workshop: No heavy scorpions, no siege onager.
Blacksmith: No ring archer armor
University: No architecture, no masonry, no keep, no treadmill crane
Economic Upgrades: No crop rotation, no stone shaft mining
D. Unique Unit Heilongjian Hand Cannoneer
Created at Castle
Hand Cannoneer with blast radius of 0.3
E. Unique Techs Fire Lance (Imperial Age) – Gunpowder units gain +0.2 blast radius 800w 800g Manchu bow - (Castle Range) - Cav archers get +1 range 300w 200g
F. Campaign:
Jin Dynasty against Chinese
G. Wonder:
The Chengling Pagoda of Zhengding, Hebei Province
H. Philosophy:
Long range Cav Archers but poor accuracy
Strong Cav
Strong Gunpowder
Poor Navy
Poor Monastery
Poor Building Defense
No infantry
Because we end up like aoe3 after all its expansion, slowly changing from a plain aoe e3 vanilla game to a game dominated by gimmicky mechanics, auras, special abilities, and special ways of resource collection.
Because feitoria at least is balanced around a high cost and eating up population space. Houses aren’t though and are down right cheap and can be thrown almost anywhere
I think that’s a natural evolution of games. You can’t just duplicate existing bonuses, so you’re gradually forced to use more and more different kinds of bonus. As long as they don’t become overwhelming, it’s okay, and can even be a good thing.
And ask why is Feitoria nerfed, and why is quite criticized by pros, also go and check ESO-community and AOE 3 forums and see what pros think about generating res houses.
The feitoria nerf isn’t even close to be enough, a competent enough player will keep those safe to still get the resource generation and snowball in islands.
