Im just saying you arent making a good argument imo
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I’ve never understood the Polish thing, is this from mainly Polish people?
Lmao that is such a Eurocentric view
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Sometimes you should just ignore some comments and move on.
Please do flag this comment as well.
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Maybe. Poles are very proud people and like their country.
Although I am not a Pole I feel somehow Poland should be included in the game. Or at least to make some referrence to them…
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Polish reference:
Lithuanians
Access to Paladin
Hill Fort
Each Garrisoned Relic gives +1 attack for Knights
Monasteries work 20% faster
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Utterly general… could be applied to Franks during Louis IX…
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hill forts is lithuanin thing
so relgion bonus and Paladin is what makes rhem poles?
this goes for many many civs. could be teutons could be anythign
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Yeah one more reason I don’t want them to even touch the NA/Inuit tribes.
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yup makes no sense
i addmit if they must trash-talk i rather have no poland and no underdevelopped tribes
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Prediction: If they stick to the schedule of The Lords of the West, I expect a DLC reveal on 15/6/2021 and a release on 27/7/2021. This sort of fits with this month being the gaming show month.
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Me personally was just curious because it seems to be all the rage on this forum. I personally wouldn’t mind them being included cus I’m more of map editor, campaign person.
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I’m confused. You know, Berbers and Saracens is also an insult yet they are named this way in the game.
Sure, where possible and where recognizability doesn’t get hurt, the names which they called themselves should be used, though that never prevented new civs from being included.
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…which cannot be represented by any other civ in game and would bring some underused unit lines like the Eagle Warrior line in the spotlight again.
Every single civ in this game is a tribe. You just want the Polish tribe, I want some North American ones:
Definition of tribe
1a : a social group composed chiefly of numerous families, clans, or generations having a shared ancestry and language
b : a political division of the Roman people originally representing one of the three original tribes of ancient Rome
c : phyle
2 : a group of persons having a common character, occupation, or interest
3 : a category of taxonomic classification ranking below a subfamily also : a natural group irrespective of taxonomic rank the cat tribe the rose tribe
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How would they differ from any of the other meso civilizations? Tech tree vise its again going to be a eagle line civi.
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then Franks are also an insult in your reasoning.
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We have 33 civs with Knights so American civs can be different.
I can see a polynesian civi being unique with meso civi having a uu ship but how would any land civilization change much from the current set?
I wouldn’t describe the Polish as a “tribe” but a civilization, already back in the medieval time period.
Before the Kingdom of Poland came into existance there were various, quite different tribes such as Polans, Pomeranians, Goplans, Lendians, Masovians, Vistulans, Silesians etc. inhabiting its regions.
If it had not been for their constant unification attempts that resulted in inner conflicts and battles, they likely would have formed seperate, independent kingdoms or duchies, similarly to the Germans.
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Civilization is a rather vague term too:
civilization
[ siv-uh-luh-zey-shuhn ]
See synonyms for civilization on Thesaurus.com
noun
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an advanced state of human society, in which a high level of culture, science, industry, and government has been reached.
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those people or nations that have reached such a state.
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any type of culture, society, etc., of a specific place, time, or group: Greek civilization.
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the act or process of civilizing, as by bringing out of a savage, uneducated, or unrefined state, or of being civilized: Rome’s civilization of barbaric tribes was admirable.
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cultural refinement; refinement of thought and cultural appreciation: The letters of Madame de Sévigné reveal her wit and civilization.
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cities or populated areas in general, as opposed to unpopulated or wilderness areas: The plane crashed in the jungle, hundreds of miles from civilization.
Poland is as much a tribe as it is a civilization, ironically. Same thing for the civs I’m suggesting.
The term tribe was often used in a colonial context to belittle the Colonized and justifying their acts towards them.
In Arabian context, it was used to talk about all European civs, regardless if they were Spanish, Hungarian or French, so yes you’re kinda right and wrong, because in the context of the game, Franks encapsulates basically France and not as a big Christian European blob civ, like the Saracens in this game are. They’re used as Moslem Middle East civ with Egyptian, Kurdish and Arabian elements.
EWs with extra armour, EWs which regenerate, Castle Age Eagle Warriors, Meso civ where barrack tech cost no gold, faster projectiles for units etc Literally everything which doesn’t involve cav in some way with Archer, Infantry UUs and Siege UU
Possibilites are sheer endless…
Some of the boni are already used but those were some civ concepts I’ve seen in other mods:
| Chimus: | Infantry civilization |
|---|---|
| * Infantry (except Eagle Warriors) +1/0 armor in Feudal, +1/+1 in Castle and +2/+1 in Imperial Age | |
| * Masonry and Architecture free (requires University) | |
| * Repairer work x2 faster | |
| * Villager move 10% faster | |
| Teambonus: Blacksmiths works 33% faster | |
| Unique Techs: | |
| Huacas: | Production buildings have +10 garrison room (500w 200g) |
| Tlacochtli: | Skirmisher move +25% faster and have +10 HP (500f 300g) |
| Muisca: | Archer civilization |
|---|---|
| * Villager work 6% faster | |
| * Projectiles move 30% faster | |
| Teambonus: Killed trash units return 10% of its cost (skirms and spearmen get round down) | |
| Unique Techs: | |
| Tejo: | Eagle Warriors move 10% faster (300f 150g) |
| Usaque: | Killed archer (except skirmisher), Infantry and Guechas return 20% of their cost on death (800f 500g) |
Iroquois
Civilisation Bonuses
Start with +150 wood
Siege upgrades are 30% cheaper (could be replaced by an attack bonus vs building for siege or Free Capped Ram upgrade e.g.)
Eagle warriors are 20% cheaper
Team bonus: Houses build twice as fast
Unique Techs
Castle age: Leather coverings - Siege weapons have +3 pierce armour, 400 wood + 400 gold
Imperial age: War chiefs - Eagle warriors regenerate, 400 gold + 400 food
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