Vote for the next 4 civs you want in the game

Looks like you can’t read the actual results here right? Aztecs 6 and Incas 10 position… :smiley:

And no, my nickname is just because I’m from Peru, Incas were our old civ like Romans were to Italy now, and it’s a nick I’m using since 1998 when I starting playing AOE1 and others games.

Turks are Asians. Arent they for you? xD

Kinda yes … But during this timeline they were part of a European conflicts for hundreds of years so …
Btw. am from Bohemia so am not biased towards some civ. like most of the commentators/voters

I simply vote for a most-reasonable civs witch hugest impact during this time

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If you really want the “incas” and “aztecs” as playable civilizations it is better to add them as the viceroyalty of peru and the viceroyalty of new spain, that way you can have a dark and feudal age more pre conquest, and a castle and imperial age with a more hispanic influence, that way they have access to gunpowder units and there would not be so much difference with the european civilizations.
Although it must be said that both were part of the Spanish empire, not as colonies but as overseas kingdoms.

spain OBVIOUSLY needs a place in this game , 4th largest empire but hey its not worth to be in game right?

(sarcasm hahah)

Japón 1º, España 4º, perfecto. :ok_hand:

Portugal 13th, Vietnam 19th. :frowning:

Mhmmph, en el momento en que se anuncia España…estaré muy contento.

Strong disagree in regards to Scotland. You can’t even accurately tell the tale of the French and English rivalry without including the French Ally Scotland. Also you can’t adequately tell the tale of danes/vikings invading Britain without the Scots.

Do some research my friend. Scots were never conquered by England, so England had to play dirty and capture their queen. And that happens probably beyond the scope of the game eras.

Without scotland in the UK, they british would have never been an industrial powerhouse.

Scotland deserves to be in this game more than most. Their struggle for independence is a riveting story and now is reborn in modern day now that brexit has happened.

They were never a world power, they were never even a Europowerhouse, they never conquered, they never rose empires in other parts of the world, they never even survived as a colonial state…there’s a reason most of the world is only taught in history class that they existed and were important in English history.

As far as I’m concerned, they’re already in the game under the English umbrella.

On a different note, I, personally, would have preferred the entire AoE4 be about the isles and original peoples prior to the Norman invasion. Playing with all the Celtic Civs and Anglosajones in epic campaigns with rich culture, art and language that are so uncommon for most of us that a game dedicated to them would be such a joy for me. It could be a way to hold onto the old languages like Breten, Cornish and Welsh.

Maybe they could add Scots for the sake of me listening to their language.

Adding new civilizations is to keep the community in the game not to expand it, Beastyq mentioned that he is not encouraged to know that he must learn 40 civilizations to not lose a game and I think that is why aoe2 keeps his numbers but does not exceed them.
The moment you consider that the game has reached its user cap is when you should focus on keeping that community active.

Now is the time to attract players, from this era, focusing on balance and community mods

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Please add scotland :frowning:

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Wait, why is Turk in the list? Oh, i see, (2022), so this is a old post, when Ottomans didn´t exist as a civ.

Well, Apparently many miss the Japanese, the Spanish, the Byzantines, the Incas and the Aztecs. Me too.

I would miss the Portuguese, but they deserve to go out with the Kingdom of Morocco, the Kingdom of Ethiopia and the Vijayanagara empire. I prefer that the Incas, Aztecs, Spanish and Japanese being released first.

I think this poll is a little unfair. No one will pick Tamil or Amazighs because they have not heard of them. Also, given the English are picked about a third of the time, I think maybe the Scottish should be taken a little more seriously.

For me, it is the technological disadvantage

The Incas were in the middle of a civil war when Spain came , idk dude…

I would like to see the Indus Valley civ. They were ancient but had an incredibly advanced civilization.

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Habsburg and Cairo sultanate are already in the game (to some extent Amazighs too) Habsburg being HRE and Cairo sultanate being Abbasid dynasty. Idk If they will add Al Andaluz if they add Spanish but I think Spanish Reconquista will make a great campaign if they somehow can squeeze these two. Iranians were under Ilkhante which was a Mongol dynasty so I don’t think they will add it. Turks are just Ottomans.

Edit: I will love Scotland and the Malays. I want to pillage English villages using my claymore wielding warriors

Republic of venice was very important in this period

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Well, it is true that the final prize of the HRE mastery is an icon of the famous and much-loved CARLOS V, who in Spain also continues to be remembered by that name, although it is his title at the HRE. It would be hilarious if the Spanish mastery achievement n°14 gave you “Carlos I” icon as a prize, and obviously it’s Carlos V but with another , although they probably give you “Isabel la Católica” or “Felipe II”, or easily all of them.

The detail is that Carlos V himself had blood from almost all the European kingdoms of that time, so he was either spanish and german at the same time. However in military tactics, depending on the situation, he took advantage of the armies of the Kingdom of Castile and Aragon or from the Holy Roman Empire. For his invasion of the Vatican for example, he used a massive army of tens of thousands of Landsknechts, but for other invasions he used the famous Spanish Tercios.

It is true that if the history of the reconquest of Spain is marked in his campaign, there is much to talk about and not only about his battles against Muslims, but events such as the invasion of Constantinople in the 4th crusade for the Crown of Aragon; or the occupation of the Kingdom of Sicily, or the conflicts with France and England. It could also cover the period of “El cantar del Mío Cid” at the beginning, in the middle the Battle of Las Navas de Tolosa, and end with the Conquest of Granada.

Of course, the civ “Al Andaluz” could be considered as a campaign Civ, or also include the “Sultanate of Morocco” as a new official civ, which both at that time became 2 very different kingdoms. I actually made some concepts of both civs, but haven’t revealed them yet, mainly because I like to be very detailed with my models, and I’m still working on a new one, but sometimes I get lost, because recent post make me want to modify my concept of Incas and Aztecs, and I think I have finished the Inca, but the Aztec still needs 1 or 2 tweaks.

In theory, Al Andaluz would have as Landmarks many palaces and structures of the famous Alhambra in Granada, a “Network of Castles” Bonus similar to the English Bonus, and as unique units: the chained Royal Guard of Granada and the Genitour.

The Morocco civ. would have a system of dynasties similar to the Chinese, going through the Almoravid, Almohad, Merinies, and Saadi. To go through each dynasty you have to build 2 landmarks. They have many unique buildings, including a fortified granary and fortified mosque, and 4 unique units for their 4 dynasties.

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None for me. Just want foundational game and gameplay improvements done before spending time building out civs in a game that is unattractive to so many AoE players

If they’re looking to attract more players, I don’t know that simply adding more civs on the mediocre foundation is going to do much to achieve that

But, I guess if you’ve bought the game already and see no real room for improvement in the base game, graphics, or UI (or think of them as super-low priority), then yes, might as well just simply add more and more new civs and do balance changes for the next decade or two. Should be a winning recipe for existing players :slight_smile: I can see how that would be fun for you

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