Well nomad is indeed a different game mode, it just happens to have a map of the same name. That doesnât necessarily mean it shouldnât be included in the queue though.
except its not:
Could it be made into a game mode where you could play it on any map? yes!
Is it? No.
It most certainly could be re-classified - and fortress is practically made for regicide.
Thereâs an incoming ranked lobby system on its way that will be releasing in the months ahead for death match - Iâd like to see that expanded to multiple modes - I feel nomad should be one of those modes and separate from the standard queue. That alongside many other mode additions will increase the popularity of the ranked lobby system. Itâs my belief that only adding death match to it will be detrimental in the long run in terms of gauging ranked lobby popularity.
Following that an addition of a multi-mode queue to replace empire wars yet will still contain empire wars within the party mode while adding or subtracting elo towards whatever game mode you roll into rather than an elo for the queue itself(if you want a certain mode the lobby system would be there) would be fun af to have especially for friends playing together and wanting to have random fun.
Is there new info you have on this? Or is it just the same promise they made when they axed the ranked ladder?
Yeah you canât select it as a game mode (as you can in aoe1) bc it simply doesnât make sense on most maps. That why the nomad start is build in the maps themselves. Doesnât change itâs a different mode from rm though.
Bring back runestones please! it was the best map for ranked
Agreed, itâs fairly well balanced and, unlike arabia, has great hill generations that donât surround the town center catastrophically in claustrophobic manner.
In regards to battle royal - I tried it a few times but never really understood it well - its main flaw is that itâs hard to grasp and approach, which turns away players from that game-mode.
Why ya all still answerinc that clown healfortress he can have his belives that nomad and stuff belong in a different category but it doesnt change the fact that ** Nomad** is an rm map just like all other variants an is loved in the community. Stubborness wont erase facts and it wont certainly erase that he trys to force his agenda on us
Oh you can already test it out in the pup_january beta branch on steam.
The fact is that nomad is a separate game mode that was unable to be added in like regicide and death match were - it was added in via random map scripts so that the maps it was on made sense for the mode.
Iâm pretty sure a nomad âmodeâ without proper scripting for nomad specifically on a map not made specifically for nomad would result in villagers appearing closed off within trees and the like away from the others much like sheep and boar and other resources sometimes would.
In age of empires 1 it was a separate game mode and it still is.
Youâll have to remember that age 2 has only recently been placed into a queue system - the random map scripts are to be looked at objectively one by one to determine if theyâre suited for the standard start ranked queue. Nomad doesnât make that cut, and neither does the current mega random.
Theyâll do well in a separate queue, the ranked lobby system or both.
In mega randomâs case specifically I would like a new version to be introduced that standardizes the start (1 tc, 3 vills+civ bonuses, 1 normal/eagle scout and with or without walls or towers.(fortressâ flaw is the extra villagers and possibly the castle, it belongs to the regicide gamemode)) and then it would be a perfect addition to the standard ranked queue, and I feel I would personally play it often then.
Hey, i want to say Something to the ânomad is separate gamemodeâ discussion since the absence of counter arguments gets interpretated as approval. Please let them be. I dont enjoy mega random that much, but i do Like nomad in tg especially. If you dont want to Play them, Ban them. I do the Same with maps i dont Like. Think of them as separate gamemodes, i dont care, but let them be. And dont say Go to the Lobby. Do you know how hard it ist to Go to the Lobby? I get kicked out of so many Michi or black Forrest lobbies just because im in the 1400-1500 ELO range(which isnt that good afterall). Its so hard to find a fun Game. A really frustrating expierence.
Hey!!
Yâall know when the next voting will take place?
kinda hard to ban both nomad and mega random and only have one ban left to spare or even no bans left if thereâs more than one nomad and mega random in the mix, which means playing on less than satisfactory maps you couldnât ban. and thatâs just 1 vs 1 - if queueing single team games you can only ban one and have the chance to dread the other. unless in a team, and even then sometimes the bans will not work and youâll get the banned map anyways, or at least so I hear. I would rather have spent the bans on maps I might consider playing than to be forced to ban entirely separate game modes I absolutely wonât consider playing within that particular queue. Elo on nomad vs elo in regular standard play is very different, if Iâm forced into nomad by someone who actually practices it in the same standard elo or even below by 100 of mine I will lose 99% of the time. as for mega random, depends on if it gains the nomad start or double tcs or animal scouts for that matter.
in the standard queue, I would love to play with standard start. for a chaotic queue I would love to play chaotic starts of many types and modes and have that queue separate from the standard queue.
I would rather say âuse the separate chaotic fun queueâ.
alongside with saying âyou also have the option of using the ranked lobby system(different from the current lobby system and will likely have advertisements for what elo is in each ranked lobby)â
as well as âthe standard queue with a standardized mega random is available and nomad is available in the second queue along with many other fun modesâ
among other wanted sayings.
the goal isnât to exclude modes from the queue; the goal is to set the modes into a separate queue from the standard start queue while also adding those separate modes to the ranked lobby system for additional, more refined, game searches.
I am in this exact position also
Guess I didnât get invited, I donât have a code for the beta.
EDIT: Actually think I figured it out, just now no1 online there testing it out for me to play against.
See, you dont have to explain it to me. I think I have read most of your posts regarding this issue. I mostly read quitely in this forum, but I just wanted to give a statement here. I always ban Arena for the exact same reason. I suck at it. Every now and then i dip my nose in just to get spanked and then bann it again. the same argument could be made here. I could try and learn it but im just too lazy. I see your problem but i dont think your solution is as good as you think.
I understand, however I believe arena is well within the standard start, as is 4 lakes, islands and even arabia regardless of its current faults. I know you mean well by the comparison, but in my personal opinion fortress would be the better comparison since it also doesnât fall under the standard start.
that all being said, I understand where youâre coming from; I also suck at arena, and sometimes I will attempt it from time to time with mixed results, most of them negative. (my build type needs adjustment to counter any fast imp types.)
Hi, Iâm already an insider but donât have the steam beta access code. What do I need to do to get it?