So a few of the African maps from the new DLC have water trade routes with ships and trading sites along the coast. Does anyone know how to make these kinds of trading routes on the scenario editor? Thanks for any help!
In scenario editor, it’s not possible, but you can:
2/ use for example Horn map as the basis of your new scenario and then edit it.
1/ modify any custom map (fe. Caribbean) by changing the trade route type like this:
bool placedTradeRoute = rmBuildTradeRoute(tradeRouteID, "water_trail");
water_trail is the name of the water trade route type with carracks. But then you need some tutorial how to create custom maps. It’s editable just in the .XS file. The code is not difficult, but it’s a bit of programming…
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I tried to edit the water trade route on the Horn map (add points) but the slightest modification turns it into a land route ^^’
The solution would be:
-Create a custom map, or find an existing map which looks like the desired scenario
-Change the bool placedTradeRoute line in the .XS file
-Open this map in the editor
-Work on this map in the editor (but don’t touch the water trade route)
It seems laborious…
I hope the developers will add an option to convert a land trade route into a water trade route. There are so much possibilities of maritime scenarios to do !
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I wanted to present a proposal to make the map of the Amazon have maritime trade routes, but I see that they still do not implement this function in the editor. Could you do it soon?
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I’m desperately trying to create a water route in the editor (yes I still have some hope…).
I tried using the “Override map-specific tech” option in the “Map Types” window and putting “euroNavalTradeRoute”. It changes the visual of the trading posts but not the route…
I tried using the “Trade Route Apply tech” trigger with, for example, the “DETradeRouteUpgradeWater1” or “DENavalTradeRouteEuropeanRename” tech. But the route passes only at level 2 and receives a stagecoach…
My current mood:
Im tryng too to make an water trade route but thats hard…
Not quite the same thing as the original question, but when creating a rms map, how does one enable the trade route upgrades?
I figured creating a file in the mapspecifictechmod folder with the following would do the trick but it doesn’t do anything.
<forcetech>DEEnableTradeRouteWater</forcetech>
Also, what affects the socket type? I only ever get the default North American one, so maybe that’s where my problem lies.
As far as I experienced, mapspecifictechmods is bugged and can’t work with new map types from maptypesmods, so it’s necessary to activate the tech via trigger.
But tbh I hope I’m wrong and there is some way how to work around it.
I actually did have some success getting it to work in the scenario editor. I have no idea why it doesn’t work for random map scripts though.
I’m not using mapspecifictechs, because it’s not reliable. I never found out how to make it work with a 100% guarantee. Tech triggers are annoying, but it’s a safer variant.
But just tell me: You added a completely new map type or you’re using a combination of existing map types? If you want just a water trade route and use a proper European or African map type, the thing should work, but when we come to American water trade routes, there is a problem, because there is no such map type and the techs need to be activated separately.
Just one thing regarding the map types: When you create a new map type, the map is still MP-compatible? Because I’m not sure about it (but most likely I’m wrong…)
My RMS map uses a trigger for the trade route and a combination of my new map type for treasures and New England to get the right outlaws. Ideally I wanted to use mapspecifictechs, not an existing map for outlaws because it adds their treasures too but I could never get it working.
However, in the scenario editor, you can select your map techs by map type and my totally custom ones did show up and had the correct custom outlaw mix. I’ll try later and see if the water trade route is also enabled by that too.
I’m not sure what all affects if something is mp compatible as I haven’t tested that yet. I posted the one I made as m00zillamapmod if you want to try it out. I also have stuff like custom treasures and guardians so that might also affect compatibility.
Yeah, with custom treasures you probably loose MP compatibility anyway and both players need to have the mod activated. But, good and bad news for you:
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treasures and ambient effects work well for new map types, so if you call your new maptype HudsonRiver, copy ambient effects from New England and add custom treasures for this new map type, it will work fine. The only problematic part is mapspecifichtechsmods. So f. e. for Australia I just created a special tech which is activating the Australian mercenaries, outlaws and the water trade route. Basically replacement for mapspecifictechsmods.
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As far as I see the only problem is mapspecifictechs file which is bugged and needs to be worked around. But new map types in general work fine.
Do you have to do anything special for the civs with fixed outlaws to prevent the new ones from being available? Or does enabling them only affect the Tavern?
Also, where do you find the ambient effects? I’ll have to add that if I get rid of the reference to an existing map.
They appear just in the building which allow their training, so Saloon, Tavern, Monastery, Lombard and I think that’s all. You can of course just play with that and allow them also for other buildings or don’t allow them in Saloons etc… I basically used the same setup as I’ve seen for other outlaws and mercenaries.
How do you eliminate the existing default techs? I want to have water routes, with Pirates and Comancheros as outlaws. I have no problem getting that working, but I can’t seem to get rid of the Pistoleros and Renegados that are in the Tavern by default. That should be doable by setting the status to 0 (unobtainable), but that doesn’t seem to work.
rmCreateTrigger("Starting Techs");
rmSwitchToTrigger(rmTriggerID("Starting Techs"));
for(i=1; <= cNumberNonGaiaPlayers) {
rmAddTriggerEffect("Set Tech Status");
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("PlayerID",i);
rmSetTriggerEffectParam("TechID","3645"); // DEEneableTradeRouteWater "3645"
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("Status",2);
rmAddTriggerEffect("Set Tech Status");
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("PlayerID",i);
rmSetTriggerEffectParam("TechID","1555"); // SaloonTechOutlawRider "1558"
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("Status",2);
rmAddTriggerEffect("Set Tech Status");
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("PlayerID",i);
rmSetTriggerEffectParam("TechID","1556"); // SaloonTechPirate "1559"
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("Status",2);
rmAddTriggerEffect("Set Tech Status");
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("PlayerID",i);
rmSetTriggerEffectParam("TechID","1554"); // SaloonTechOutlawPistol "1559"
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("Status",0);
rmAddTriggerEffect("Set Tech Status");
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("PlayerID",i);
rmSetTriggerEffectParam("TechID","1543"); // SaloonTechOutlawRifleman "1559"
rmSetTriggerEffectParamInt("Status",0);
}
rmSetTriggerPriority(4);
rmSetTriggerActive(true);
rmSetTriggerRunImmediately(true);
rmSetTriggerLoop(false);