Most probably not this summer, dlc usually take longer to be made and atm the devs are busy porting some AoE1 campaigns into RoR.
Neither are Attila or Alaric
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Why dont you share other sources that people can check?
I believe you donât, and I also believe that people like you will always be in the minority.
Yes, I agree, although the expansions from TLK usually have 2-3 civs, but it would be nice if the 4 civs expansions were backâŠ
The Koreans had an empire but only in 1897 until they were conquered by the Japanese in 1910âŠ
Yes, you can put up a good battle in a Georgian campaign, although I think a Georgian campaign would be Tamar of Georgia (1184-1213)âŠ
Upon the Hunnic defeat of the Goths on the Pontic Steppe around 375 CE, many of the Alans migrated westwards along with various Germanic tribes. They crossed the Rhine in 406 CE along with the Vandals and Suebi, settling in Orléans and Valence. Around 409 CE they joined the Vandals and Suebi in crossing the Pyrenees into the Iberian Peninsula, settling in Lusitania and Hispania Carthaginensis.[9] The Iberian Alans, soundly defeated by the Visigoths in 418 CE, subsequently surrendered their authority to the Hasdingi Vandals.[10] In 428 CE, the Vandals and Alans crossed the Strait of Gibraltar into North Africa, where they founded a kingdom which lasted until its conquest by forces of the Byzantine Emperor Justinian I in 534.[10]
Those Alans who remained under Hunnic rule eventually founded the powerful kingdom of Alania in the North Caucasus in the 9th century; it survived until the Mongol invasions of the 13th century CE. Various Ossetian scholars regard these Alans as the ancestors of the modern Ossetians
Around 370, according to ######### the peaceful relations between the Alans and Huns were broken, after the Huns attacked the Don Alans, killing many of them and establishing an alliance with the survivors.[4][47] These Alans successfully invaded the Goths in 375 together with the Huns.[4] They subsequently accompanied the Huns in their westward expansion.[4]
Following the Hunnic invasion in 370, other Alans, along with other Sarmatians, migrated westward.[4] One of these Alan groups fought together with the Goths in the decisive Battle of Adrianople in 378 CE, in which emperor Valens was killed.[4] As the Roman Empire continued to decline, the Alans split into various groups; some fought for the Romans while others joined the Huns, Visigoths or Ostrogoths.[4] A portion of the western Alans joined the Vandals and the Suebi in their invasion of Roman Gaul. Gregory of Tours mentions in his Liber historiae Francorum (âBook of Frankish Historyâ) that the Alan king Respendial saved the day for the Vandals in an armed encounter with the Franks at the crossing of the Rhine on December 31, 406). According to Gregory, another group of Alans, led by Goar, crossed the Rhine at the same time, but immediately joined the Romans and settled in Gaul.
Under Beorgor (Beorgor rex Alanorum), they moved throughout Gaul, till the reign of Petronius Maximus, when they crossed the Alps in the winter of 464, into Liguria, but were there defeated, and Beorgor slain, by Ricimer, commander of the Emperorâs forces.[48][49]
In 442, after it became clear to Aetius that he could no longer rely upon the Huns for support, he turned to Goar and persuaded him to move some of his people to settlements in the Orleanais in order to control the bacaudae of Armorica and to keep the Visigoths from expanding their territories northward across the Loire. Goar settled a substantial number of his followers in the Orleanais and the area to the north and personally moved his own capital to the city of Orleans.[50]
Under Goar, they allied with the Burgundians led by Gundaharius, with whom they installed the Emperor Jovinus as usurper. Under Goarâs successor Sangiban, the Alans of OrlĂ©ans played a critical role in repelling the invasion of Attila the Hun at the Battle of ChĂąlons. In 463 the Alans defeated the Goths at the battle of OrlĂ©ans, and they later defeated the Franks led by Childeric in 466.[51] Around 502â503 Clovis attacked Armorica but was defeated by the Alans. However, the Alans, who were Chalcedonian Christians like Clovis, desired cordial relations with him to counterbalance the hostile Arian Visigoths who coveted the land north of the Loire. Therefore, an accord was arranged by which Clovis came to rule the various peoples of Armorica and the military strength of the area was integrated into the Merovingian military.
Following the fortunes of the Vandals and Suebi into the Iberian peninsula (Hispania, comprising modern Portugal and Spain) in 409,[53] the Alans led by Respendial settled in the provinces of Lusitania and Carthaginensis.[54] The Kingdom of the Alans was among the first Barbarian kingdoms to be founded. The Siling Vandals settled in Baetica, the Suebi in coastal Gallaecia, and the Asding Vandals in the rest of Gallaecia. Although the newcomers controlled Hispania they were still a tiny minority among a larger Hispano-Roman population, approximately 200,000 out of 6,000,000.[9]
In 418 (or 426 according to some authors[55]), the Alan king, Attaces, was killed in battle against the Visigoths, and this branch of the Alans subsequently appealed to the Asding Vandal king Gunderic to accept the Alan crown. The separate ethnic identity of Respendialâs Alans dissolved.[56] Although some of these Alans are thought to have remained in Iberia, most went to North Africa with the Vandals in 429. Later the rulers of the Vandal Kingdom in North Africa styled themselves Rex Wandalorum et Alanorum (âKing of the Vandals and Alansâ).
There are some vestiges of the Alans in Portugal,[59] namely in Alenquer (whose name may be Germanic for the Temple of the Alans, from âAlan Kerkâ,[60] and whose castle may have been established by them; the Alaunt is still represented in that cityâs coat of arms), in the construction of the castles of Torres Vedras and Almourol, and in the city walls of Lisbon, where vestiges of their presence may be found under the foundations of the Church of Santa Luzia.[citation needed]
In the Iberian peninsula the Alans settled in Lusitania (Alentejo) and the Cartaginense provinces. They became known in retrospect for their massive hunting and fighting running mastiff-type dogs, the Alaunt, which they apparently introduced to Europe. The breed is extinct, but its name is carried by a Spanish breed of dog still called Alano, traditionally used in boar hunting and cattle herding. The Alano name, however, has historically been used for a number of dog breeds in a few European countries thought to descend from the original dog of the Alans, such as the German mastiff (Great Dane) and the French Dogue de Bordeaux, among others.
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Kingdom of the Alans in Hispania (409â426 CE).
Kingdom of the Vandals and Alans in North Africa (526 CE).
Alania was an important buffer state during the Byzantine-Arab Wars and Khazar-Arab Wars of the 8th century. Theophanes the Confessor left a detailed account of Leo the Isaurianâs mission to Alania in the early 8th century. Leo was instructed by Emperor Justinian II to bribe the Alan leader Itaxes into severing his âancient friendshipâ with the Kingdom of Abkhazia which had allied itself with Caliph Al-Walid I.[13] He crossed the mountain passes and concluded an alliance with the Alans, but was prevented from returning to Byzantium through Abasgia. Although the Abkhazians spared no expense to have him imprisoned, the Alans refused to convey the Byzantine envoy to his enemies. After several months of adventures in the Northern Caucasus, Leo extricated himself from the precarious situation and returned to Constantinople.[14]
After Leo assumed the imperial title, the land of his mountaineer allies was invaded by Umar IIâs forces. A Khazar chieftain, Barjik, hastened to their succor and, in 722, the joint Alan-Khazar army inflicted a defeat on the Arab general Tabit al-Nahrani. The ####### erected Skhimar and several other strongholds in Alania at this period. In 728 Maslamah ibn Abd al-Malik, having penetrated the Gate of the Alans, devastated the country of the Alans. Eight years later, Marwan ibn Muhammad passed by the Gate in order to ravage the forts in Alania. In 758, as Ibn al-Faqih reports, the Gate was held by another Arab general, Yazid ibn Usayd.[citation needed]
As a result of their united stand against the successive waves of invaders from the south, the Alans of the Caucasus fell under the overlordship of the Khazar Khaganate. They remained staunch allies of the ####### in the 9th century, supporting them against a Byzantine-led coalition during the reign of the Khazar king Benjamin. According to the anonymous author of the Schechter Letter, many Alans were during this period adherents of Judaism.
In the late 9th century, Alania became independent from the ################################################################################################### In the early 10th century, the Alans fell under the influence of the Byzantine Empire due to King Constantine III of Abkhaziaâs activities in north Caucasus. He sent an army into Alan territory and, with the Byzantine patriarch Nicholas Mystikos, converted the Alans to Christianity.[16] The conversion is documented in the letters of Patriarch Nicholas Mysticus to the local archbishop, Peter, who was appointed here through King George II of Abkhaziaâs efforts.[16] Richard Foltz has suggested that only certain elite Alan families were Christianized, the bulk of the population continuing to follow their original pagan traditions.[17]
When Ibn Rustah visited Alania at some point between 903 and 913, its king was by then Christian. The Persian traveller came to Alania from Sarir, a Christian kingdom immediately to the east:[18]
You go to the left from the kingdom of Sarir and, after three days of journey through mountains and meadows, arrive in the kingdom of Al-Lan. Their king is Christian at heart, but all his people are idolaters. Then you travel for ten days among rivers and woods before arriving at a fortress called the âGate of the Alansâ. It stands on the top of a mountain at the foot of which there is a road; high mountains surround it and a thousand men from among its inhabitants guard its walls day and night.
Surviving architectural monuments of the Alanian kingdom include three churches in Arkhyz, the Shoana Church, and the Senty Church.
After the downfall of Khazaria, the Alan kings frequently allied with the Byzantines and various Georgian rulers for protection against encroachments by northern steppe peoples such as the Pechenegs and Kipchaks. John Skylitzes reports that Alda of Alania, after the death of her husband, âGeorge of Abasgiaâ (i.e., George I of Georgia), received Anakopia as a maritime fief from Emperor ######## ############################################################################################################################## This happened in 1033, the year when the Alans and the Rus sacked the coast of Shirvan in modern-day Azerbaijan. Alania is not mentioned in East Slavic chronicles, but archaeology indicates that the Alans maintained trade contacts with the Rusâ principality of Tmutarakan. There is a stone grave cross, with a Cyrillic inscription from 1041, standing on the bank of the Bolshoi Yegorlyk River in present-day Stavropol Krai, immediately north of Alania.[21] Two Russian crosses, datable to ca. 1200, were discovered by archaeologists in Arkhyz, the heartland of medieval Alania.[22]
Political map of the Caucasus region in 1060
The Alans and Georgians probably collaborated in the Christianization of the Vainakhs and Dvals in the 12th and 13th centuries, Georgian missionaries were active in Alania[12] and the Alan contingents were frequently employed by the Georgian monarchs against their Muslim neighbors. The Alanian-Georgian alliance was cemented in the 1060s, when the Alans struck across Muslim Arran and sacked Ganja. In the 1120s King David the Builder of Georgia visited the Darial to reconcile the Alans with the Kipchaks, who thereupon were allowed to pass through Alania to the Georgian soil. Davidâs son, Demetre I, also journeyed, c. 1153, to Alania accompanied by the Arab historian Ibn al-Azraq. The alliance culminated in 1187, when the Alanian prince David Soslan married Queen Tamar of Georgia, a half-Alanian herself, with their descendants ruling Georgia until the 19th century. The medieval Alanian princesses also married Byzantine and Russian Rurikid rulers more than once. For instance, Maria the Ossetian, who founded the Convent of Princesses in Vladimir, was the wife of Vsevolod the Big Nest and grandmother of Alexander Nevsky.
In the late 1230s all three Christian powers - Alania, Georgia, and Vladimir-Suzdal - fell before the Mongol invaders. Bishop Theodore of Alania described the plight of his metropolis in a lengthy epistolary sermon written during the tenure of [Patriarch ######## ######################################################## (1222â40). The French-Flemish monk and traveler William of Rubruck mentions Alans numerous times in the account of his 1253â1255 journey through Eurasia to the Great Khan, e.g. Alans living as Mongol subjects in Crimea, Old Astrakhan, the Khanâs capital Karakoram, and also still as freemen in their Caucasian homeland (âthe Alans or Aas, who are Christians and still fight the Tartarsâ).[23]
Political map of the Caucasus region in 1245
The wars of Timur in the 14th century inflicted the final blow on Alania and decimated its population. Those who survived being killed or enslaved by the Mongols and Timurâs armies, broke up into three groups. One retreated into the foothills and valleys of the central Caucasus and produced the two principal Ossetian groups, Digor and Iron. Another group of Alans migrated with the Kipchaks into Eastern Europe and preserved their language and ethnic identity as the Jassic people until the 15th century. The third group joined the Mongol horde and soon disappeared from history.[12]
Known rulers (for IA Names)
The nomenclature used by the rulers of Alania is unknown. Where they are mentioned by historical records, they are variously called âlordâ, âprinceâ, âkingâ, âtsarâ, and by the ########### ################ Notably, the Byzantines never referred to other foreign rulers by this title, using arkhon or exousiastes instead.
Non-dynastic/dynasty unknown[edit]
- Bazuk - c. late 1st/early 2nd century; allied with the Arsacid kings of Iberia
- Anbazuk/Ambazuk - co-ruled with previous
- Ashkhadar - c. early 4th century; father of Ashkhen, wife of Trdat III of Armenia
- Itaz - waged war against Abkhazia in the early 8th century
Tsarazon/TsĂŠrasantĂŠ dynasty[edit]
- Urdur/Urdura/Urdure - c. early 11th century; first known ruler of Alania after independence from the ######## He invaded Kakheti around 1029 and died in battle against Kvirike III. According to Vakhushti of Kartli, Kvirike was assassinated by an Alan slave in revenge.
- Durgulel the Great - c. 11th century;[24] son of previous, father or brother of Alda of Alania and Borena of Alania. Byzantine seals refer to him as Gabriel, which may represent a baptismal name. Sometimes considered to be identical with his predecessor.
- Rosmik - c. early 12th century; fought with the Byzantines against the Normans invading Epirus c. 1107/8
- Khuddan - c. 12th century; father of Burdukhan of Alania, wife of George III of Georgia[25]
Bagrationi dynasty[edit]
- David - c. 12th century; grandson of Alda of Alania; forced to flee Georgia after his father Demetrius unsuccessfully tried to claim the throne. He and his descendants married into the Tsarazon dynasty and became the rulers of Alania
- Aton - son of previous
- Jadaron - son of previous
- David Soslan - d. 1207; son of previous, married Tamar of Georgia[26]
Non-dynastic/dynasty unknown[edit]
- Kachir-Ukule/Kachiruk Ulu (Kachiruk the Senior? Compare with David Ulu) - c. 1237 - last known ruler of the united Alan kingdom. Captured and killed by the Mongols.
- Indiabu - c. 13th century
- Peredjan - c. 1290
Legacy
In the last years of the Soviet Union, as nationalist movements swept throughout the Caucasus, many intellectuals in the [North ######## ######################################################## called for the revival of the name âAlaniaâ. A leading Ossetian philologist T. A. Guriev was the main advocate of this idea, insisting that the Ossetians should accept the name of the Alans as their self-designation and rename North Ossetia into Alania. The term âAlaniaâ quickly became popular in Ossetian daily life through the names of various enterprises, a TV channel, political and civic organizations, a publishing house, a soccer team, an airline company, etc. In November 1994, the name of âAlaniaâ was officially added to the republican title (Republic of North OssetiaâAlania).
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The Ainu are an indigenous people of the lands surrounding the Sea of Okhotsk, including Hokkaido Island, Northeast Honshu Island, Sakhalin Island, the Kuril Islands, the Kamchatka Peninsula, and Khabarovsk Krai, since before the arrival of the Yamato Japanese and Russians.[7][8][9][10] These regions are referred to as Ezo (èŠć€·) in historical Japanese texts.
Research suggests that Ainu culture originated from a merger of the Okhotsk and Satsumon cultures.[16][17] According to Lee and Hasegawa, the Ainu-speakers descend from the Okhotsk people who rapidly expanded from northern Hokkaido into the Kurils and Honshu. These early inhabitants did not speak the Japanese language; some were conquered by the Japanese early in the 9th century.[18] In 1264, the Ainu invaded the land of the Nivkh people. The Ainu also started an expedition into the Amur region, which was then controlled by the Yuan dynasty, resulting in reprisals by the Mongols who invaded Sakhalin.[19][20] Active contact between the Wa-jin (the ethnically Japanese, also known as Yamato-jin) and the Ainu of Ezogashima (now known as HokkaidĆ) began in the 13th century.[21] The Ainu formed a society of hunter-gatherers, surviving mainly by hunting and fishing. They followed a religion which was based on natural phenomena.[22]
During the Muromachi period (1336â1573), many Ainu were subject to Japanese rule. Disputes between the Japanese and Ainu developed into large-scale violence, Koshamainâs Revolt, in 1456. [Takeda ######################################################## killed the Ainu leader, Koshamain.
The Ainu and Nivkh peoples of Sakhalin were subjugated and became tributaries to the Ming dynasty of China after Manchuria came under Ming rule as part of the Nurgan Regional Military Commission.[23] Women in Sakhalin married Han Chinese Ming officials when the Ming took tribute from Sakhalin and the Amur river region.[24][25] Due to Ming rule in Manchuria, Chinese cultural and religious influence such as Chinese New Year, the âChinese godâ, Chinese motifs such as the dragon, spirals, scrolls, and material goods such as agriculture, husbandry, heating, iron cooking pots, silk and cotton spread among the Amur natives such as the Udeghes, Ulchis, and ############################################################################################################################
During the Edo period (1601â1868) (in AoE 3 timeline already) the Ainu, who controlled the northern island which is now named HokkaidĆ, became increasingly involved in trade with the Japanese who controlled the southern portion of the island. The Tokugawa bakufu (feudal government) granted the Matsumae clan exclusive rights to trade with the Ainu in the northern part of the island. Later, the Matsumae began to lease out trading rights to Japanese merchants, and contact between Japanese and Ainu became more extensive. Throughout this period Ainu groups competed with each other to import goods from the Japanese, and epidemic diseases such as smallpox reduced the population.[27] Although the increased contact created by the trade between the Japanese and the Ainu contributed to increased mutual understanding, it also sometimes led to conflict which occasionally intensified into violent Ainu revolts. The most important was Shakushainâs Revolt (1669â1672), an Ainu rebellion against Japanese authority. Another large-scale revolt by Ainu against Japanese rule was the Menashi-Kunashir Battle in 1789. However, throughout this period and thereafter the Ainu-Japanese relationship continued to be marked by trade and commercial relationships, not conflicts.
From 1799 to 1806, the shogunate took direct control of southern HokkaidĆ. During this period, Ainu women were separated from their husbands and either subjected to #### or forcibly married to Japanese men, while Ainu men were deported to merchant subcontractors for five and ten-year terms of service. Policies of family separation and assimilation, combined with the impact of smallpox, caused the Ainu population to drop significantly in the early 19th century.[28]
In the 18th century, there were 80,000 Ainu.[29] In 1868, there were about 15,000 Ainu in HokkaidĆ, 2000 in Sakhalin and around 100 in the Kuril islands.[30]
The Santan Japanese traders, when they were trading in Sakhalin, seized Rishiri Ainu women to become their wives.[31][32]
Japanese annexation of Hokkaido[edit]
In 1869, the imperial government established the HokkaidĆ Development Commission as part of the measures of the Meiji Restoration. Sjöberg quotes Babaâs (1890) account of the Japanese governmentâs reasoning:[27]
⊠The development of Japanâs large northern island had several objectives: First, it was seen as a means to defend Japan from a rapidly developing and expansionist Russia. Second ⊠it offered a solution to the unemployment for the former samurai class ⊠Finally, development promised to yield the needed natural resources for a growing capitalist economy
Historical homeland and distribution of the Ainu people
1843 illustration of Ainu
Both are right, donât fightâŠ
Yes, we wonât have any more dlc for AoE 2 until next May⊠now itâs time for port AoE 1 campaigns into RoR and dlc for AoE 3 in June and then nothing (except events) until the release of AoM Retold in October and AoE 4 on Xbox in DecemberâŠ
Yes, of course if they suddenly added 50 more civs overnight then balance would be impossible. But if the civs are added gradually at the same pace theyâre currently being added, i.e. 2 to 3 civs per DLC once a year, I canât see the problem.
It sounds like they could be pretty well encompassed by civs already in the game, particularly the Japanese. But I could be wrong.
I agree with the Tamar pick. Iâm hoping that more Historical Battles get added in the future, but thatâs probably too optimistic.
Summer is way too early. According to the 2023 roadmap, weâll get a real dlc this year.
Plans are of course subject to change. Would bet on an October to December release
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Youâre indeed wrong.
I donât think it would be easy to implement Ainus, but theyâre pretty much unrelated to Japanese outside of living in the same archipelago.
I think Emishis wouls be easier to implement, and they could use Ainu language, but idk about any leader name or a potential campaign from their perspective.
But the question is if the players will play with the 100 civs or with the same 5-10 as alwaysâŠ
They did not speak Japanese and did not join Japan until 1869âŠ
Well, in AoE 3 DE they always add historical battles in the dlcs (except the last dlc that added historical maps, skirmish maps based on the European conflicts of the early-modern era), so who knowsâŠ
Difficult, right now they are going to be 100% focused on AoM Retold, but maybe they will announce a dlc for next year⊠but on the roadmap they said they were going to bring a lot of things so who knows?..
The newer civs are always pretty popular though. I see Poles, Burgundians, Gurjaras etc. very frequently on the ranked ladder. Every time they add new civs, people start playing them a lot. Itâs also ELO dependent; the lower the ELO, the more likely they will pick the same old civs and vice versa, the higher the ELO the less civ picking there is.
Well there it can be thenâŠ
No more civs, for the love of lord DauT. If they do another DLC, I would like to see old civs get campaigns, and perhaps improvements to the team game experience (although the latter should just be a free update)
See, thatâs the thing with this game. Thereâs something for everybody. It wouldnât affect me at all if the devs just stopped releasing 1 player campaigns and just put all their efforts on pathing / bug fixes, civ balance and designing new civs for the ranked ladder. But Iâm happy for them to keep making campaigns because I know a lot of players like them.
So to everyone saying âToo many civs, stop making new civs!â, just try to think beyond your own limited perspective. Just because you donât like something doesnât mean your opinion should deny others the opportunity to enjoy more civs. We are happy to pay for more DLC and more civs.
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I donât think the game needs additional civs as pretty much every part of the medieval world can be represented (to some extend) by the existing ones.
However, the game can still feature additional content, mainly:
- More scenario content. I wish to see something like they did with unique keeps and trade posts applied to churches, so that finally central european civs can have proper gothic/romanesque churches (like teutons having catholic churches), byzantines orthodox churches, slavs russian orthodox etc. A building named âregional church/templeâ would be a start. One could also add synagogues or various buddhist shrines. Additional âbarbarian themedâ buildings would also be nice, to represent various barbaric and/or pagan tribes, the shrine they included could be seen as a first step. You could even conceive a viking pagan architecture, a slav pagan architecture and a celtic pagan architecture, limited to one age ofc. Maybe make it possible to replace the dark age architecture for those civs, at least in a scenario? In addition, more decorative cannons/swords/ruins/flags/items/totems/idols etc
- Regional units similar to trade carts, most importantly monks but also villagers. Additional scenario-only iconic units would be great, like strelez for slavs or landsknecht for teutons.
- Proper palisade walls (that look like wooden walls, as if soldiers could patrol on them). This one was actually very important for medieval towns ,as stone walls were very expensive, but isnât represented at all.
- It would be a nice feature to âbuildâ roads, only if purely for aesthetics. They could âdecayâ the same way farms do, after a time changing their appearance
- As already mentioned, more historical battles.
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You mean like the Briton campaign in Lords of the West, or the Goth and Byzantine campaigns in the Forgotten, or the Lithuanian campaign in Dawn of the Duke, or the new Inca campaign in the Last Khans/DE and the new Hindustani campaign in Dynasties of India?
Funny, itâs almost like adding new civs doesnât prevent the devs from adding new campaigns.
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Of course, one thing doesnât take away the otherâŠ
But lord himself wants more civs.
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He doesnât have his own civ (Serbians) in the game yet.