The doomers in this thread aren’t considering it from a wider point of view. What does it do to the general AOE series if World’s Edge cancels the DLC? It destroys consumer confidence. If they cancelled AOE3 DLC, what’s to say they won’t cancel the yet-unnamed second AOM dlc? After all, AOM’s player population is lower than AOE3, so if they are cancelling one, why not the other? Or the forecast AOE4 DLC? Relic is functionally dead, so maybe they’ll cancel the DLC if FE can’t work fast enough.
The AOE3 dlc will be released. It will probably be in Spring between the Immortal pillars (probably in Winter) and whatever the hodgepodge AOE4 dlc will be (presumably in Fall).
The problem -for Microsoft- is that the only consumer base for AoE3 is the AoE3 player base. You have to understand that, for the average buisness brainrot executive, for something to be consisder “a good investment” is not enough that it have consumers, but instead that it will have more consumers yet to come, which, let’s be honest, it’s not exactly AoE3 case.
And that’s because AoE4 was always a b*stard project born from the idea of repeating the AoE2 sucess “for the modern era”, which just end up being a hodgepodgee of AoK and AoE3 with no real tarjet audience. It didn’t help that the only thing that they end up offering for DLCs was the idea of “variant civilizations”, which really was a dubious concept from the start.
I don’t belived that “doomerism” is an accurate portrait of people who look things from what they are.
What confidence? The same confidence we have when they promised to improve the quality of life of the game and the same confidence we had when they promised more communication?. There is no trust at this point, there is only disappointment and a DLC is not going to change that fact.
I understand that there are some “doomers” when we have received several bad news at the same time.
It’s also true what you say, except about the player population in AoM (there are quite a few on Xbox Live) and about the AoE4 patch coming out sooner.
This comparison would be fair if AOE-3 was also on Xbox.
I understand your point, but for some reason AOE3 is not being introduced on consoles. There aren’t even too many changes to be made in terms of software.
AOE1 Definitive Edition has been abandoned and partly ported to AOE2
A lot of new content has been added to AOE2 (so many campaigns!), including a brand new rework of AOE1 readapted to AOE2 mechanics (Chronicles)
Very little new content has been added to legacy AOE3 when it has become the Definitive Edition (zero campaigns… at most some single scenarios), and most of new content is recycled from other sources (e.g. Maltese is made from existing campaign content, Italians have been taken almost identical from a fan-made mod named “War of the Triple Alliance”)
AOE4 is mostly a 3D remake of AOE2
I’d say that AOE1 and AOE3 Definitive Editions have been abandoned, and there’s an attempt to make their player bases migrate to AOE2… I’d be not so surprised seeing AOE3 ported to AOE2.
I don’t see how they are trying to push AOE3 players to AOE2, at least not beyond the “we want people to play all our games”.
Even if there are design similarities between wars of liberty and DE Italians it doesn’t mean they used WOL assets, this is really bizarre argument i don’t even think the WOL guys would argue their assets are anywhere close in quality to the DE ones.
The primary content for AOE3DE is in the form of civs, for the simple reason civs sell in AOE3 while in AOE2 it is harder to sell a new civ, AOE2 content is also just a lot easier to make and has a significantly bigger market which enables entirely new campaigns.
Good gravy. We get a patch (albeit a small one) and still have a DLC on the way and yet not even two weeks later a large chunk of the community is chanting “abandoned game” yet again.
Not surprised at all. I’m 100% sure that only a few days after the DLC has released, we’ll see new threads like “The game is dead now” or “Is this the end of AOE3DE?”. This is beyond pathetic.
I think the idea of “dead game” comes straigh from the brainrot caused by gacha and other live service games. I remember the original World of Tanks and, well, it was grindy AF, but it didn’t had gamepasses and such. Heck, TF2 used to selfdom had updates, but every time it got one it was a reinvention for the game. HOWEVER TF2, while it had major uptdates, it tried to consistently fix what was bad about the game. AoE3 is a live service game, and yes, I think they giving skins and icons is good enough, I can’t ignore the neglect that the game-as-a-service have had, and this critiscisms blatantly ignore the subject. They are also ignoring the fact that the game as a whole is getting ignored by the devs as it didn’t existed or mattered, which is the original spark of the feelings of this comunity.
It would be a freaking embaracement for a company of millions not to offer something better than fan content, dont you think? And yes, it’s true that all fan designs of Italy at one point drawed from the cut version of Italy, it’s also true that all over DE there are straigh up “inspiration” from WoL, mostly in the revolutions.
Or perhaps because WE had not offer many much more than civs? I don’t think anybody would get mad if they launched a “only campaings” DLC for AoE3. Moreover, you are straigh up admiting that the main reason that WE pander towards AoE2 is that it’s cheaper and sells more, which is an awful thing to do if you deliverately turned AoE3 into a live service.
I’m not usually a pessimist, because the game has received good content over time, but there are a number of things that have accumulated that make me lose faith in the future of the game. For example:
The announcement of the DLC was disappointing for many, although the event in general was criticized. It wasn’t only bad for AOE-3 players.
Not allowing AOE-3 to participate in official tournaments. There was participation from the entire saga, but of course, we don’t belong to it. Wouldn’t it be a good event to promote the game? This game is so bad that only a handful of “weirdos” like it?
The company is not proud of AOE-3. They avoid it as much as possible.
Things from AOE-3 implemented in other games don’t receive any credit. While anything derived from AOE-2 is put on a pedestal.
They promised quality of life in the last patch, and where is it?
I don’t see what elements of Wars of Liberty Italy were taken for DE that people are so conspirative about.
DE Italy is very Napoleonic Era inspired, much like the Swedes before them which, yeah no surprise the DE team used to be the Napoleonic Era team.
I’m personally confident on the DLC being good or at least up to standards for similar reasons, they’ll probably brush up the civ designs they had in Napoleonic Era and implement them in DE, which isn’t a bad starting point. This DLC is very much working to the team’s strenghts, so it’ll be actively difficult for them to mess it up.
There’ll be a DLC. It had an annoucement. Delayed notice or not, we will get it - it’s just the ‘When’ part where’s there’s ambiguity.
For the record, I don’t think the game is abandoned or dead or whatever - stuff will come eventually. We’re just not flagship product material and that’s fine - I like our little Age of Sail / Enlightenment Age niche .
Lack of support resource and communication is my only real doomy gripe.
