The Sacred Roman Empire were the Germans !!
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yes we need Dracula Campaign!
I would like to see the following civilizations:
- Italians (Republic of Venice).
- Byzantines ( Cataphract).
- Spanish and Portuguese (El Cid and Reconquista, Ginetes).
- Japanese (Samurai and bamboo biome).
- Africans (With Rasta priests in colorful shirts).
- Scots (Highlanders holding claymores).
- Hungarians.
- Vikings or Danes.
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I don’t want to see any additions until the devs have nothing better to do, which will take quite a while.
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They already have a roadmap, so any DLC would be coming summer of 2022 at the very earliest if they decide to do so.
Viking is a profession, not the faction. AoE2 unfortunately perpetuated historically inaccurate depictions of the Norse including horned helmets.
Kalmar Union would be the proper term for the nordic factions as a full scale high medieval empire. You could also choose Danes, Norway, or Swedes if the Kalmar Union is too late into the time period.
Calling the faction “The Vikings” is like calling the English as “The Pirates”, or the French as “The Farmers” or the Chinese as “The bureaucrats”
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I voted for Other, and I would like to put forward the Majapahit Empire (South-East Asia) (1293 - 1527). They were a massive trade empire that defended and won against the Chinese Empire, Mongol Empire, They traveled far to India and the Middle East. They had success in both Naval and Land Warfare. And their golden age was heralded by a Queen.
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I’d love to see a Scottish civ as a compensation of AoE2’s bad anachronistic depiction of Celts having Woad Raiders and Paladins.
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I’ll wait to get AOE4 until they’ve added some American and/or African representative. I really want to play as Malians and Aztecs.
I think, in summary, I’d like to see these civilisations:
- Scandivanians with Danes/Swedishs/Norwegians
- Gaelics with Scottishs/Irishes/Welsh
- Iberians with Al-Andalus/Leon or Castille/Portugal
- Egea with Byzantines/Turks
- Far Asian East with Korea/Japan
And, on a lesser scale: - Pre-Colombian Empire with Aztecs/Mayas/Incas
- Indian Empires
Here was my summary.
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- Portuguese;
- Spanish;
- Italians;
- Hungarians;
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Thanks for the valuable information.
I believe most of the world does not know that detail.
Well, they are the faction you play as in AoE2’s Malay campaign, so I guess a few people here heard about it. But yeah, it’s an interesting and relatively unknown piece of history.
I think it’s a case of naming civilizations in that game from what other people called them. There was the same issue in regards to Byzantines and Indians, which were not names that were used at that time period. (Byzantine was actually an insult invented in the mid 1500s well after the fall of constantinople)
I hope to make it Japanese in DLC. It is said that Japan is a copycat civilization.
1: There should be a Japanese soldier that can climb mountains across terrain and can penetrate fences.
2: There should also be one unit that can steal technology from the other. This unit can play as any soldier villager on the other side, but will be deleted by the other side if discovered.
3: The Japanese also have a type of soldier that can be upgraded, based on the number of kills, continuously advanced.
4: Hope Japan doesn’t have heavy armor units, they are too heavy, not like holy Rome. It’s an excellent sword, fast moving, multi-directional attack. My vision is that soldiers can abandon armor and move quickly. With armor, they move more slowly.
5: Japan should have more attack weapons, they will use meteor hammer, iron plate, nunchucks. There should be one pawn with four weapon modes.
It would be fun if all of those hopes were met
Weird analogy
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Japanese, and Japan’s Neighbor:Korean
No. Byzantine was not an insult invented in the 1500s after the fall of constantinople…
It was even used by citizen of this territory without being an official term. Anna Komnene use it multiple times in her Alexiad.
If byzantine is used by Historians, and official scholarship, it’s jjust because it’s useful, to distinguish two different roman empires : the roman empire of classical time and antiquity, an the roman empire of middleages.
It obviously refer to the “Romans without Rome as Capital”.
The insult used by western europeans, and HRE emperor was Greeks, helenic poeple / helens, never used Greeks for themself. It was a word kept in the late roman empire for the pagans which continued to pray greek gods instead of christians ones. And later used by westerners to pull away eastern romans as they were really different from roman empire.
Helens were obviously really devout, and didn’t like to be called greeks by westerners instead of romanoi.
Even today, greek is the exonym, and the endonym is helen. Greek was the word used to decrease the claims of eastern romans over roman heritage.
Mismatching byzantine, which was rarely used as insult (only some expression like “having a bizantine administration”, which is not more uncommon than a bunch of expressions), but was used by some renaissance italians scholars because nostalgia of antiquity, iit is two different things.
the whole “Byzantine BAD, they never called themself like this”, is kinda boring, and not a big discovery.
I mean, at this point most of namings are not how poeple called themselfs…
HRE poeple never called themself Holy Romans, or Romans, Persians never called themself Persians, etc etc.
ERE or Byzantine both work, it’s not a matter of insults when it’s used by historians
And Byzantium is just highly recognizable… When you see than a bunch of poeple of aoe community don’t get than HRE are germans, it’s sometimes good to use obvious naming.
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Indeed !
I’d add that it comes for Byzantium, the name Constantinople had before the Emperor Constantine, who gave his name to the city, changing it from Byzantium to Constantinople.
Byzantines might be the first one, then I think it will be great that Ottomans is the second. Ottomans is my favorite AOE3 Civ.
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