Ι played more of the scenarios and guys the voice acting is just rediculus. The same again and again and again, both on dialogues and in-game voiced hints/instructions. They aren’t even voiced properly! Wow!
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It is also full of bugs, unpolished. I have experienced already 3 errors/bugs in 5 scenarios, varying from repeating voice lines due to bug to wrong colors and idle enemies on hard (for example in the mongol scenario the workshop bug i experienced 3 years before is still present in the… “polished” DLC release (yellow enemy not producing units the one of the two times i played the scenario)!!!
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If so, then its on him for proposing such a nonsense idea.
The dilemma:
If we don’t buy every #### they sell, they will have fewer funds to make high quality contents.
But if we buy such ####, they will only use the funds to release more and more ####.
Time to realize the real problem is them deciding to sell #### rather than us consumers being willing to support it at all costs or not, or whether they need funds or not.
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Refunded
“Each scenario has been updated and polished with full, professional voice acting, music, rebalancing, bugfixes, achievements, and quality of life improvements.”???
What a Cheater!
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if he pitched this then I sure hope he also pitched a lower price or he’s delusional
no. they are a big enough company and aoe2 base game is still selling well. don’t believe this when others say it
them selling trash is part of the problem. but we as consumers have responsibility and power: refund the DLC if you’ve bought it and don’t like it. leave a bad steam review, you can even consider changing your steam review of the base game
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I’m being sarcastic.
Whether the company is doing well or poorly, it does not justify selling #### like this.
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I honestly think for the small potion of singleplayer and campaign enjoyer (however much they are) should expierence it for themself and if they dont like it they can still refund
The basic premise of this product i agree isnt good but its for a kind of audience
Dont think it would be reasonable ro sabotage it with planned negative reviews to discourage people from getting it
I wasn’t active then when the Forgotten mod came out, but isn’t it the same situation?
The Forgotten mod was free (please correct me if I’m wrong), then AoE2: HD came out from it.
People had to pay for the “new” game with all the civilizations from the mod plus all the new stuff the HD brought with it.
I would like to see the V&V DLC as something that could bring a lot of content for the game in the future.
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It essentially is.
It’s basically also the same with Counter Strike that started as a mod for Half Life 1.
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Achievements are not translated in my language. What is this amateur-ish release?
Even the “Britons” civ name is not consistently tagged on the scenarios description (they labelled either Bretons or Britanniques, for the same civ).
I am a campaign enjoyer and I am expecting same number of new scenarios as in previous DLCs, and the refurbish and polishing that they promised, and a few new assets and scenario-specific models to make up for the lack of new civs. Then it will roughly worth the value.
I consider it as a bad practice too.
It had better be released as part of HD not a separate dlc of it.
BUT in defense of that, HD was a “testing water” product, and the forgotten “DLC” was in the testing water phase of HD, while we’re now at a stage where DE has already been proven to be matured and successful.
If that was released as the third or fourth DLC as HD, then it could be compared with this current one we just getz
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I’m not sure, but I think we wouldn’t have one without the other.
DE would not exist without FE, FE would not exist without the HD/Forgotten mod.
According to the devs, V&V DLC is a
for more similar content
I don’t see how “the originally free mod sold as a dlc” has anything to do with this.
The free FE mod was successful. So HD was successful. So DE was released. Now where does that mod sold as a dlc fit in this process?
I’d agree with you only if they would go complete bankrupt and the series would die again if they did NOT sell the forgotten as a standalone dlc.
But even if that was the case, then it would mean that the series did not have enough market potential so it would already have failed with HD.
Please do not accidentally ignore the fact that:
The forgotten was the first dlc of HD, a rather new product with unsure potential at that time, by a small mod team just turned official, with limited funds and resources.
This is the fifth DLC of DE, a very matured product already with a huge market value, by a company who just produced “the best-selling expansion ever”, with (presumably) much more funds and resources.
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I doubt he has any say over the prize tag.
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if you have an idea like that surely it comes with something like “here is an idea for a smaller DLC” etc. If he pitched it as a full DLC he is part of the problem
I read some steam reviews about bad voice acting by a single voice actor for all scenarios. Is it true?
I’d heard about some bad voice acting, but not that all the scenarios had the same voice actor. If so that’s even worse.
After careful consideration and much thought, I caved and bought simply because I wanted to carry on supporting (and it was also because the discount was about to expire but that’s secondary).
However, after playing two scenarios Gaiseric and Vortigen I have to say that this has to be the most shocking content piece I have ever experienced. I could not carry on playing because whatever enjoyment I had (which was little, to begin with) had rapidly dwindled after these two.
I played many of these via the Workshop and despite SOME changes in some scenarios, they are not enough, there are some sloppy errors in others but the major common theme (and I’m sorry to spoil this but you’re not missing much but it is important to highlight) that many of the scenarios are just a giant map with a sparse level of design and detail in many areas coupled with a lot of things to do but you don’t get enough breathing space to do this in. Gaiseric and Vortigen is quite frankly, shocking in this regard. I checked out the rest of the maps via Marco Polo and I just lost all motivation to continue when I saw it all. I’ve read other comments, in particular about Otto or Nobunaga and how there’s just no real effort anymore. There’s even the same narrator too, everywhere, doesn’t sound entirely professional either?
Where are these polished contents that you are charging for? Because this isn’t it. I don’t want to admonish the creator of these scenarios either but if I’m completely honest his design deviates too much from AoE, it’s just a giant map(s), and spend a long time travelling said map in what is frankly a less detailed one and often they end up in a slog. But each to their own I suppose. Also, the choices of battles are not really engaging either… most of them just being in Europe.
That being said, I think I’m more disappointed in whoever just decided to greenlight this in the first place. I wanted more but not this, whoever was in charge of community relations is either completely unaware of this place or is selective of where they go and just declared ‘this is fine’, people have been saying in this forum (and Steam) that this is being handled terribly and the only news to come out is just ‘blah blah players make AoE great blah blah’. Couldn’t be further from the truth, it feels insulting. You are charging for this after all and much of it doesn’t even feel like it has any professional-like quality attached to it as advertised.
I’ve never refunded a game and I would consider it in this case but I’ve spent over 2 hours so I can’t.
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