World's Edge will have a big presence at GAMESCOM 2025 (they'll show some surprises)

A couple pros, before even knowing it was 2 DLCs not one, or having any details really, said what was coming was “huge”.

Then people took that and ASSUMED all kinds of things.

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Could be grand strategy turn based map stuff like Total War. Or a Roguelike mode of some kind. Or maybe something vaguely RPGish where there are various challenges and you unlock things as you go for future ones (SC2 and WC3 campaigns already did this though).

What I think we really need is something that can be coop though.

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Exactly!
Imagine a Blend between CoH, CK and AoE :grin:

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My guess would also be a grand strategy turn based mode, similar to Total War or Company of Heroes 3. Remember that Relic is developing this DLC and they certainly have the experience and the know-how to add this mode.

Just 3 weeks until we find out!

I highly doubt the game mode is a MOBA. I think it will just be a simple game mode like King of the Hill or something cooperative. It could also be the scenario editor.

The most interesting thing would be a “conquest map” similar to Coh3. It could add to many options for single player

It will be a MOBA. King of the Hill, COOP is not something you see in different games. They existed in AOE 2. By the sounds of it seems the gamemodes will be totally new to AOE but existed in different games. IT could be battle royale but it exists in AOE 2

So the conclusion is it would be MOBA

OR Grand strategy. Remember, Relic is releasing Warhammer hammer 40k dawn of war Definitive this year. That game has grand strategy mode. Similar mode can be introduced to AOE 4 to promote that game

“new game mode we’ll be unveiling with this next expansion”

  • A ‘zoom higher’ game mode?

" you might recognize core elements from other genres making their debut as well"

  • Use mouse wheel to zoom out farther?

“and there’s so much more to share!”

  • Better (classic) UI icons?

“While we aren’t ready to go into the exact details yet”

  • Understandable. Making a carefully-crafted press release talking about four years of poor zoom level and poor, non-intuitive UI design and how a ‘better tomorrow’ is coming soon can take time. It’s a big paradigm shift
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I’m not sure the metamap for the campaigns for DC and SS qualify as grand strategy (saying this as someone who’s played them both to death).

Yes, AoE 3 was going to have a similar mode…it was a big map like the New World map from RoN or the campaign map from Empire Total War…

Or a DoW 4 campaign where they travel 39,000 years in the past due to some warp glitch and end up in the Dark Age of AoE 4…

If they make another game made with fear and without memorable campaigns, it’s not worth getting hype about again.

Well, even though this year they split the supposed big DLC into two, they only released 2 variant civilizations in the previous one, so they have to release at least 3 main civilizations, I’m sure of it. They could be Castilians, Aztecs, and Vikings.

We don’t know if that’s true. Just speculation.

We definitely don’t know that. I would not count on it. Sultans was 2 civs 4 variants. We’ve had 2 variants this year. There’s no reason to think this coming expansion will be bigger than Sultans.

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I’d bet money on it.

The map of Atacama suggests that it could be Incas instead of Aztecs…then it would be Spanish, Incas and Vikings…

No it doesn’t. Atacama is just one of many preexisting AoE maps that’s been added to AoE4. There’s no reason to read any further into it.

Maybe we’ll get something native American, but Atacama has nothing to do with it.

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Well, it was a possibility… besides, why would you include a map of Atacama without anything relating it to the rest of the game if not to add Incas and Spanish later?

They would include it because:

Yes, that too… but I just wanted to see another reason and not just stick with “it’s just a map that was in AoE 2 and that’s it”… after all, you don’t lose anything by dreaming…

The only way to play this game again is if there is a siege overhaul with better physics and proper animations and better graphics / colors.