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you forgot that they wanted Peace talk with Japan as soon as possible.
They did NOT want to fight the war.

say that to Japanese who fought against Admiral Yi.

Please… Admiral Yi died in the same fight he won. Korea was just bleeding it’s already small and inadequate military, dry.

The Imjin War is a study case of a strong country railroading a weak country, and then another strong country interveening to stop it.

dose that mean Horace Nelson was meaningless since he died in a battle against Napoleon?
in a very similar way as Adirmal Yi?
What about gustav adolf ii?
and look at outcome of the battle
" he immediate results of the battle were a shock to the Japanese command. Without being resupplied or reinforced, the morale of the Japanese soldiers declined.[citation needed] Joseon and Ming armies were able to regroup. Even after the victory, however, the Joseon navy was still outnumbered by the remaining Japanese navy, so Admiral Yi withdrew to the Yellow Sea to resupply his fleet and have more space for mobile defense. After hearing the news of the heroic victory, many surviving ships and sailors who had been in hiding after the defeat at Chilcheollyang joined Admiral Yi’s fleet.[6]

The victory also enabled the Chinese navy to join Admiral Yi in early 1598. After the destruction of most of the Joseon fleet at Chilcheollyang, the Ming kept their navy stationed at important port cities to guard against possible Japanese naval attacks. The victory at Myeongnyang convinced the Ming government that they could ease security at their major ports and deploy a fleet to the Joseon navy’s aid.

The Japanese navy was heavily damaged (while at least 30 of the Japanese fighting ships were destroyed,[2]:314 the total number of damaged ships, to include those supporting ships that may have sustained damage, was not clearly reported[21][22]). As previously mentioned, Kurushima was killed & beheaded, and Tōdō Takatora (the hero of Chilcheollyang) was wounded.[4] According to the Annals of the Joseon Dynasty, half of the Japanese sailors and marines were casualties.

Due to the Korean victory, after the Korean navy withdrew, even though the Japanese navy made an incursion into the western coast of Korea, near some islands of Yeonggwang County, they withdrew soon afterwards."

look at what it says “KOREAN Victory”

Victory in one battle, loss in the entire war, if the Ming had not interveened.

I do not think you realize what Japan would have done to Korea, if the Ming had not stopped it. They would have just become the Aztecs of Asia, meaning they would have vanished.

Korea then did absolutely nothing else for the entire game period.

It is the literal definition of a Minor Settlement civ.

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The battle that crippled and ENDED Japanese invasion.
Also just to let you know Admiral Yi NEVER LOST a battle.
There is why even people outside of Korea consider him to be greatest Admiral in world history
". Yi is remembered for his numerous victories fighting the Japanese during the Japanese invasions of Korea (1592–1598). Among his twenty-three victories, the Battle of Myeongnyang and the Battle of Hansan Island are the most famous battles.

In 1592, Toyotomi Hideyoshi gave the order to invade Korea and use it as a forward base to conquer Ming China. After the Japanese attacked Busan, Yi began his naval operations from his headquarters at Yeosu. Despite never having commanded a naval battle in his life, he won the Battle of Okpo, Battle of Sacheon, and several others in quick succession. His string of victories made the Japanese generals suddenly wary of the threat at sea.

Hideyoshi was fully aware of the need to control the seas during the invasion. Having failed to hire two Portuguese galleons to help him, he increased the size of his own fleet to 1700 vessels, assuming that he could overwhelm the Joseon navy with numerical superiority.

There were numerous reasons why Yi was so successful against the Japanese fleets. Yi had prepared for the war by checking the status of his soldiers, granaries, and supplies, replacing them when it was necessary. As part of this preparation, Yi resurrected and built the turtle ship, which was a considerable factor in his victories. Yi also had a great deal of information about the southern Korean coast and he planned his battles using the sea tides and narrow straits to his advantage.

Yi was a charismatic leader, and was able to maintain his soldiers’ morale despite constantly being low on supplies and food, and continuous news of countless Korean losses in ground battles. In some records, it is stated that he went as far as to personally fulfill some of his soldiers’ dying wishes. He demonstrated his loyalty to the people by treating them with respect and fighting amongst them even when endangered. Because of this, Admiral Yi became immensely popular among his soldiers and the Korean people, who often provided him with intelligence reports at great risk to themselves.

The Joseon panokseon were structurally stronger than Japanese ships at the time. Panokseon had stronger hulls and could carry at least 20 cannons, compared to the Japanese 4. Japanese ship-mounted cannons were inferior to the Koreans’ in both range and power. Cannon development had been neglected by the Korean government, so Yi personally saw to it that the technology was developed. As such, the Korean side had several different types of cannons at their disposal in battle.

Admiral Yi was an excellent naval strategist. The Japanese navy’s strongest tactic was to board enemy ships and engage in hand-to-hand combat. The panokseon was slower than the Japanese ships so Yi had little room for error to negate the Japanese navy’s most dangerous tactic. He was able to do so in every naval engagement he commanded.

As Yi’s brilliance as a strategist revealed itself throughout the war, his legend grew. In what could be considered his greatest victory in the Battle of Myeongnyang, Yi proved victorious in the battle with 13 panokseon, while the Japanese had at least 333 ships (133 warships, at least 200 logistical support ships).

It was largely due to Yi’s complete control of the seas that the Japanese were eventually forced to retreat, keeping Joseon safe from another Japanese invasion until the end of the war."

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Nope. Japanese invasion ended because Hideyoshi died, and Tokugawa had no interest in the campaign, while also preparing for another Civil War and a period of Isolation.

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If Korea is insignificant then Britain was insignificant during WWII. Only America’s war effort was important.

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AND because of the Admiral Yi.
Admiral Yi was one that halted ambition of Hideyoshi

Nope. Britain actually held back the Germans on their own, and had a successful North African campaign, before the USA joined the war.

In fact, Hitler attacked Russia because his efforts against Britain were not really paying off.

No, the man just died, if he lived on, the war would have continued.

" In response to the Korean navy’s success, Toyotomi Hideyoshi recalled three admirals from land-based activities: Wakizaka Yasuharu, Kato Yoshiaki, and Kuki Yoshitaka. They were the only ones with naval responsibilities in the entirety of the Japanese invasion forces"

read that Wikipedia article FIRST. this counters EVERY SINGLE part of your argument.

" Second campaign against Korea[edit]

Main article: Japanese invasions of Korea (1592–1598)

After several years of negotiations (broken off because envoys of both sides falsely reported to their masters that the opposition had surrendered), Hideyoshi appointed Kobayakawa Hideaki to lead a renewed invasion of Korea, but their efforts on the peninsula met with less success than the first invasion. Japanese troops remained pinned down in Gyeongsang Province. In June 1598, the Japanese forces turned back several Chinese offensives in Suncheon and Sacheon, but they were unable to make further progress as the Ming army prepared for a final assault. While Hideyoshi’s battle at Sacheon was a major Japanese victory, all three parties to the war were exhausted. He told his commander in Korea, “Don’t let my soldiers become spirits in a foreign land.”[2]"

Nope. Hideyoshi was just dying, and sensing he could not achieve his ambition because he was too sick, he ordered a retreat.
A Toyotomi Hideyoshi that lived another 5 years, would have likely finished the war with at least the Ming giving him half of Korea.

the war was losing long before Hideyoshi died. Why would he recall his forces after battle of Battle of Sacheon (1592)?
Wouldn’t you want to push on?

Korea crippled Japanese invasion:
" In response to the Korean navy’s success, Toyotomi Hideyoshi recalled three commanders from land-based activities: Wakisaka Yasuharu, Katō Yoshiaki, and Kuki Yoshitaka.[208] They were the first commanders with naval responsibilities in the entirety of the Japanese invasion forces.[208] Hideyoshi understood that if the Koreans won command of the sea, this would be the end of the invasion of Korea, and ordered the destruction of the Korean fleet with Yi’s head to be brought to him.[207] Kuki, a former pirate, had the most naval experience, while Katō Yoshiaki was one of the Seven Spears of Shizugatake.[207] However, the commanders arrived in Busan nine days before Hideyoshi’s order was actually issued, and assembled a squadron to counter the Korean navy.[208] Eventually Wakisaka completed his preparations, and his eagerness to win military honor pushed him to launch an attack against the Koreans without waiting for the other commanders to finish.[208]"

stop cherry picking.
Korea was one that made Hideyoshi’s force tired and rethink about whole invasion. They made him think “maybe this isn’t such a good idea”
oh and DO NOT run away again!

not really Japan was finished… look at what Japanese suffered after the war. ESPECIALLY with Hideyoshi clan.
" Contrary to Toyotomi Hideyoshi’s intentions, the cost of the Japanese invasions of Korea significantly weakened the Toyotomi clan’s power in Japan. After Hideyoshi’s death, his young son Toyotomi Hideyori became head of the Toyotomi clan. However, the losses suffered by varying daimyōs during the campaign were a contributing factor to the imbalance of power in Japan after the war. As the western-based daimyō of Kyushu and western Honshu (partially by geographic convenience) contributed the majority of the forces used during the Korean conflict, it left the pro-Hideyoshi alliance weakened for the eventual struggle with the mostly eastern-backed forces of Tokugawa Ieyasu (who himself never sent forces to Korea). Tokugawa would go on to unify Japan and establish himself as Shogun in 1603, following the decisive Battle of Sekigahara against a coalition of mostly western-based daimyōs .["

Imagine posting all of this, just to attempt to blur the fact that Maori would be a more worthy addition to the game, than Koreans…

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because they are NOT.
In fact Maoris are more like Natives than Koreans.
I can get that China is more important than Koreans but this… is on some other level!

Are you saying koreans are not natives to Korea?
Does this mean that it is rightful Japanese clay?

Maoris would beat Korean into a pulp, in a war.

The Maoris had lots of guns actually, they massacred and enslaved each other with them quite famously before the Europeans even started colonizing the islands of New Zealand.

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but did they have canons? They didn’t have guns until Brits came anyway.

yes but that doesn’t mean they were technologically advanced is it?

i dont think technological advancement is the most important factor for choosing new factions.

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