The zulu would be fun to give someone that can hard beat the british, the italians would be fun to give someone that the etiopians can hard beat.
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AoE4 competes very directly with AoE2. Not only from the thematic but also in many aspects of the gameplay.
AoE3 is very different to both of them. AoE4 will attract more AoE2 players and future AoE2 DLC are more competition for AoE4 than for AoE3.
I think keeping to support AoE3 makes a lot of sense.
But we will see. AoM also exists.
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Give the Italians a civ to the African DLC then listen to the grumble …
If this is going to be African DLC, then it should be all African civs. I think that the developers will try to present in the game a similar number of African civs to other non-European civs (of course including potential extensions to Asia and the Americas).
Personally, I would prefer 4 African civs in DLC + 2 African civs for free in update
Free African Civs will allow anyone to test the operation and mechanics of African Civs. Certainly, the developers will do something like this to increase interest in this DLC. Not everyone will want to buy DLC with civilizations that do not know how they work.
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Would be extremely hard to find 6 African civs taht were actually relevant to the time period.
Most of Africa just got rolled over by Europe or the Arabs.
I think the Moroccans would be similar to the Ottomans (maybe even the same only for their own UU). They would probably also add a second Islamic civ from North Africa - the Mamluks or the Sudanese.
Moroccans would be in the DLC because they are popular, and Mamluks / Sudanese for free in the update. They could give, for example, Congolese also for free in the update.
I hope we get more DLCs after african expansion .
I hope devs support this great game in 2022 with more new civilizations .
Italians & Persians #
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I also hope we get african expansion in Q3 2021
the ottoman are an artillery focused civ, morocco by comparison would be more of a cavalry civ.
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I meant Moroccans wouldn’t use African mechanics. After all, they are closer to the Ottomans than to other Africans. It is also possible that a few they were buildings would have been similar to the Ethiopians.
It is possible that they would have the same architecture. They could have Houses, Outposts and walls other than the Ottomans. Moroccan units may have been portrayed in part in Historical Battles.
Q2 2022 Asian DLC - new civs, new Historical Battles and some maps (small DLC as Asia is already in the game)
Q4 2022 European DLC - new civs, 2-3 new campaigns, European maps and Minor Nations, new animals and new Historical Battles (large DLC, as there are no European maps in the game)
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honestly with them by now having fixed the worst of the bugs i could see them speeding up development of new content significantly, a 10 man team should be able to push out a faction the caliber of the US every 2-3 months.
a European DLC definitely could be done in 3 months and a Persian faction likely in 2 months, beyond that idk. but anyhow i dont find it unlikely we are getting 3 DLC this year alone, and i dont think well have to wait that long before we see the africans come.
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As already mentioned, they won’t do more than 3 civs in a DLC. And it seems to me the most realistic option to include the Zulu, as they are THE FIRST native army that defeated the British Empire at Isandlwana which was a real shock for whole Europe back then. They could reuse the Dutch audios to make the Boers for a Zulu campaign and recycle the Boers as mercenaries or a minor nation. I guess it would be meaningful to make their focus on cheap and fast melee infantry. Which could turn to be a counterbalance to the new US civ with its Gatling guns.
If Italy ever comes, we will have to wait for a later DLC to see it.
No it wasn’t.
There had been other European defeats against native peoples, by then.
Even the British did not let it hurt their pride, they just took the Zulus more seriously, which was actually unfortunate for the Zulus, in the end.
“The British government in London had not been fully briefed by Frere about the intended attack on Zululand and initially was not overwhelmingly in the mood for war. However, the arrival in London on February 11 of the news of the defeat at Isandlwana—one of the major shocks to British prestige in the 19th century—galvanized the British government into a full-scale campaign to save face.” (Battles of Isandlwana and Rorke’s Drift | South African history | Britannica)
I didn’t say there weren’t other defeats, but the British colonial troops seemed to be unbeatable at least by natives at that time.
You said it shocked the whole of Europe, which was just not true.
The defeat did not even shock the British populace, only Military Command, because they had not considered it would be possible.
It is not like the British mourned it, or told stories about it. They just majorly shrugged it off as underestimating how organized the Zulus were.
We should have them both then we’ll see who’s more OP in-game. 11
In the meantime, they could release DLC like USA civ DLC, only with Brazil civ e.g. Q4 2021.
Of course, it’s worth waiting for the US civ DLC to finally be released. In FAN PREVIEW, they said that this DLC is supposed to do much more - what could that mean? A new campaign, e.g. about the US Civil War? Or maybe along with the USA these DLC will be added by some American native civs, or greatest revolutionary powers civs of Americas - Mexicans, Brazilians and Gran Columbians?
There were 2 unused Jingles in the game: Ethiopians and Berbers.
Combined with more or less complete roaster of units in the Historical Battles, I would have assumed those would be the new civs.
In Aoe3, being an European/Native/Asian civ only mean that you share the basic tech tree in your group and most base mechanics.
So an African civ named Berbers/Moroccan would be perfectly possible.
In the African Kingdom Aoe2 DLC, Berbers were included as well as 2 other Africans civs and the Portuguese. I do not think we’ll have more than 3 new civs, but the inclusion of an European civ like Italians would be very useful if they go the route of a new campaign, historical battles, etc. , as that would add variety.
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I don’t like the idea of adding revolutionary civs as main, i like the mechanic as it is and i want civs that were more relevant throught the 15th to 18th century. That way we don’t have to go overboard like AoE2 and have almost 40 civs or whatever, that’s way too bloated imo.
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