Age of Empires III: Definitive Edition - Kings of the Baltic (proposal DLC)

They are preparing to produce more new revolutions in Europe, There are also two new civilizations,and they have decided to release them in the Late new DLC of 2024years

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Kinda would love it if the civs were Denmark-Norway and the PLC rather than Poland and Denmark.

I can totally imagine an age up mechanic in which you unlock units with each age up from 2-4 politician options. Could be fun to mix/match units from Poland, Lithuania and possibly Russia/Ukraine or Denmark and Norway. Not a bad way to represent some nations that might not deserve to be a full civ. The tech tree changing based on player choices that usually leaves some gaps until age 5 could be pretty interesting.

Wars of Liberty did something like this.

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Of course, add a few more maps and there you have the 15 maps of the expansion (more maps of Eastern Europe, the Baltic and the North we will have or yes we will have)…

Yes, we have to see what they do, they will surely be the first ages, Jagellon and Vasa until the 3rd age, then Poniatowksi and the Duchy of Warsaw in Industrial Age and finally Congress Poland in Imperial Age…

  1. Exploration Age: Jagellon Dynasty (1386-1586): Cards related to the Jadwiga campaign, Grunwald and the wars against the Teutonic Order until the 16th century plus the Polish Golden Age

  2. Commerce Age: Vasa Dynasty (1587-1668): The entire rise of the PLC, the conquest of Moscow in 1613 and the Thirty Years’ War to include the Deluge period until 1668.

  3. Fortresses Age: Sobieski and Wettin Dynasties (1668-1764): The Battle of Vienna and the Wars of the 18th century until the Seven Years War - which will come in this dlc as historical map-

  4. Industrial Age: Poniatowski Dynasty and the Duchy of Warsaw (1764-1815): The decline of the PLC and the Revolution of 1794 - similar to that of Revolutionary France, which could later be improved to the Duchy of Warsaw

  5. Imperial Age: Romanov Dynasty and Congress Poland within the Russian Empire (1815-1916): The Revolutions of 1831 and 1863.

Yes, new revolutions will surely arrive in some patch of 2025…

Yes, anyway, it’s the same…from 1380 to 1814 the king of Denmark was also king of Norway and from 1386 to 1795 the king of Poland was also Duke of Lithuania…in the game they will be called Danes and Poles, but we know that technically they were Danorwegians and Polithuanians xd…

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I agree with this. However, I would also like to keep some content for potential revolutions. With Lithuania in particular I think the best approach would be give all the Lithuanian stuff to the house of Jagiellon and then give the Poles a card to allow them to train Jagiellon units (especially the Lipka Tatars), so maybe a similar card to others that the French and Germans already have.

Could even tie that into the age up suggestion I made. Some age ups could allow the training of Lithuanian house of Jagiellon units with an added pop cost. Lipka Tatars (maybe with coin replacing the wood cost) would be a great 1pop cav unit option.

Just reading this proposal makes me excited to try these new features. :grin:

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Some of the OP suggestions could be covered by other means, as they evidently will not be in the DLC and I have my doubts they will be in the game.

Austria-Hungary wouldn’t work as a civ. It didn’t exist until 1867 and Austria cannot be decoupled from the HRE. Vienna was the capital for almost the entirety of the period, say for a very small period of a couple years in the middle of the period.

If people really want Austria-Hungary, the Hungarian revolt could be redone. It could basically be the ā€œFrench Revolutionā€ of Germany. It would be exclusive, 2 part revolution, where part 1 (Hungary) is the 1848 revolt. Part 2 would be either Austria-Hungary or the compromise of 1867. This would make it german exclusive, however. Russia and Ottomans could get a new revolt like Serbia, Greece or Bulgaria.

Switzerland could easily be given a new Swiss mercenary in the form of a Swiss grenadier or musketeer to represent european uses of their services even through the Napoloenic wars and into the modern era. That is all I would expect of Switzerland though.

I just hope the Danes and Poles are fun to play.

I hope for at least a few new maps and some new mercenaries.
There are still some interesting potential mercenaries and we can maybe get some from counties we don’t have any from yet.

A couple ideas i had: Sekban (Turkish), Arnăut (Albanian), Székely (basically legacy Hackapell, mercenary uhlan), Serduk, Genoese Crossbow (Paviser), Miquelet (Skirmisher), and some kind of Scottish mercenary, a Redshank makes sense as they served in many, mostly Protestant, armies including Denmark.

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This truly is Age of Europe III

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The game always was mostly about Europeans.

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This means is that Cossacks 4 it won’t be officially released anymore

Doesn’t mean I won’t complain whenever Europe becomes even more overrepresented

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overrepresented in the timeframe europe was well, the absolute dominant power?
Impressive.

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That said, I’d still love a Middle Eastern DLC with Oman, Morocco and Persia along with Middle Eastern/Eastern Iranian maps like Afghanistan or Tajikistan. We could also get as natives Ethnoreligious groups like Druze or Maronites.

But I disagree that Europeans are ā€œoverrepresentedā€. This was their golden age. I don’t mind non-european civs, but Europeans helped define this era of time the game takes place in.

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Persia should absolutely be a thing, afterall they were the actual main opponent of the Ottoblob.

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But before Persia comes, Lichtenstein, Switzerland, Monaco and San Marino need to be full civs. Maybe add Andorra too, just for good measure.

One thing I do hope though in seriousness with the new DLC is that Russians get unique settlers called serfs. If ottomans got Yoruks and Dutch merchants for their unique properties, certainly batch trained villagers also deserve some extra flavor.

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I’d love some more non-Euro civs, even if they were not necessarily the stars of the period. I’ve been pushing for Brazil and Egypt, outside of the more obvious choices.

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I just don’t see how they fit well. Egypt was an ottoman satellite for most of the period and works best as a revolt, Brazil is too modern. America and Mexico were mistakes and should’ve remained only revolts

If we want more non-Europeans, maybe south-east Asia would be better beside Persia and some more African besides the Middle East/Northern Africa.

I do see a South American civ potentially being in the books due to player demographics, however. I’d rather they just made revolts interesting and worth using, however. It feels more true to history. Rather than the mid-19th century American soldiers fighting 18th or Napoloenic era musketeers or pikemen.

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I agree with you that the American revolts are best as just revolts, but Egypt could totally go either way. They were de jure under the Ottomans for the bulk of the period, but were de facto independent for most of that time and fully independent at the start and end of the timeframe.

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I’m South American and I agree with you! The best historical representation is to fit in as revolts, what is perhaps missing is some way for these revolts to be more viable (perhaps a card of the age of the fortresses to allow them to be researched earlier and cheaper).
I believe that with Poland and Denmark there are already enough Europeans, Africa, Asia and Meso-Americans would be very welcome. (I dream of a Tupi/Guarani civilization)

Switzerland could be an early revolution away from germany think Age 3 and onwards but that would require the civ to be actually propperly done which to this day it isn’t.
Or an indigenous site. Or better, actualy a card for the french, germans, dutch and italians that allows the recruitment of swiss gardes and swiss fusiliers next to the pikemen.