Are Burgundians really bad?

I explicitly mentioned that this bonus doesn’t apply fot Paladin.

For Hussar, it is a 50 second tech, same as Bloodlines and half of Cavalier. Moreover, the Hussar upgrade itself is just a Bloodlines tech for the unit which the Burgandians lack. So I see it balanced.

I have read it so much on the forums now. What does RNG mean?

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Random Number Generation. What is used to create randomness in computer programs, and by extension, often use for what is random in video games.

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What do you guys think is stronger? Lithuanian Cavalier + 4 relics or Burgandian Paladin?

Good question. Lith cavalier at +4 surely is stronger than Byz/Celt ones but no idea for Burgundian ones.

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it’s effected by chance. However at a villcount of 100 it’s a deviation of 5 vills, so very unliekely to have converted less than 40 or more than 60, less than 10 % of all cases.

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As Celts I would invest the gold in Siege Onagers rather than Paladin, so atleast I lose in style.

Another chance dependent thing is gender of villagers lost to raiding by enemies.

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But there is more to it than that. In the course of the game you will randomly spread out your villagers without a single care for their gender. Your enemy will also kill them without caring about that either. So depending on complete randomness you might have your flemish militia closer or further to the enemy, in more or less number.

depends what you’re fighting. against archers i’d rather have the extra HP and the PA of the Burgundian Paladins.
against Melee units give me the Lithuanian Cavaliers with +4.

If there is even more 50/50 chance involved the deviation decreases actually, so it should even be closer to the expected value. Unless one of the player intentionally pics or uses vils according to their gender, but then it’s not rng anymore.

omg guys seriously… the devs wouldnt/shouldnt do this… it opens up a can of worms, regardless of how non historical someone thinks it is to use female soldiers, having the number of militia produced based on gender is just too dangerous… manipulation by the player, rng, sexism… wtf would they be willing to take such a risk?

they’re so PC yall saw what they did to aoe3 and this BLM campaign… wtf would they risk something so sexist?

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Well I think the risk for the stud to be overrun by militaristic feminists is rather low…
I don’t know any feminists who try to challenge the mens military affinity actually. it’'s nothing to be proud of really.

I think we are fine.

ok ignore what i said

i’ve never heard anything about aoe3, and i will never.
There wer only 2 aoe games and never be more.

And I would be completely fine if only the female vills would be converted, too. I don’t see any reason for military romantism. I just like the tactical and historical implications and associations.

How about a very different bonus that can help their eco so much.
Villagers cost 50 wood instead of 50 food. For compensating, start with +100 wood but +200 extra food cost for aging up.

Their early eco upgrade benefits most significantly double bit axe and bow saw, wood is never a problem for them.

It should be a strong eco bonus while keeping their late game unchanged

I think if the eco upgrades are 1/3 off and less time they have actually a nice eco boost. Nothing too fancy, but they could sometimes get the advantage of getting the upgrades actually one age earlier, if the situation is right.

Wouldn’t overpower them, they would still be average, but maybe they could actually use their powerpikes proactively and not just to somehow stay in the game.

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No need to worry about the female flemish militia. First, since the tech is basically a despair button, having women fight shows this “desperation”. Two, we already have warring female villagers. Hi Spanish, hi Incas.

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not to mention gbeto are female soldiers.

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and actually nobody complained at any time gbeto are the only female military in the game, or were.

The idea of only converting male/female vills is just to make it easier to decide which 50% of the vills are converted. I would also be fine if it was just exactly every 2nd vil, regardless of gender.
The Idea is to make flemish revolution less gg.

I like the Idea of having a “desperation” tech if for some reason your base is overrun by pe hussar raids. It’s a nice addon to a very specific and unique civ.

point was that its not an issue to have female soldiers.

but why does it need to change? the whole point of the tech is that its a desperation move or a move made to finish off a won game.