Exactly, it’s just a matter of some brave soul with an ambitious project letting us know so we can support them.
I understand. We can combine the best and most requested mods to create a super project. This way, each modder would contribute what they’re most passionate about and, at the same time, help create something great for the game. Just like Forgotten Empires charged for an official mod for Age of Empires 2 many years ago, we can repeat the same pattern with Age of Empires 3. Nothing is stopping us; we just need the desire to create something fun and well-made.
Alright I’ll cut the snark and actually explain why no one is taking this post seriously.
So what coffeeco01, AssertiveWall20, M00Z1LLA and me have in common is not that we’re experienced modders, necessarily, a big part of it is simply that… we’ve been in the community for long enough.
Like strictly speaking there’s nothing outlandish at what you’re demanding. The ESOC patch was a real thing and to a degree or another it did inspire many of the changes that were brought to DE.
What the ESOC (ESO Community, or Ensemble Studios Online Community if you wanna be extremely pedantic) had going for them however is that, well, they knew the community, they knew the pros. They ran tournaments. Hell they still run tournaments. With prize pools! How cool is that?
My point is, they are a community of people you trust when it comes to them making balance changes for the game.
Note as well what they didn’t do. IE bring completely new civilizations to the game.
Have you even considered how hard it is to do that?
To have a completely new civilization. All new scripting, all the voice acting, hell, the AI, the 3D art, the 2D art, all of it?
Are you realistically willing to pay me the, let’s say, 1000 dollars it takes to make something up to the standards of this game. That’s monthly btw, per person.
I’m not even saying that making a big mod is impossible. Like Napoleonic Era and Wars of Liberty did exist. Hell, most of what’s DE’s team used to be Napoleonic Era’s. But then again, people keep claiming that they want Wars of Liberty in DE but they never stop to even consider what does that even mean.
And it’s not like big mods for DE don’t exist. Dismissing big projects like Age of Pirates or Age of the World right off the bat feels really disrespectful to me. Like I may have my differences with them, but I don’t just go and claim “yeah we need a real mod for DE”. That’s, you know, rude.
Hell, what ever led you to believe you can just go and convince the authors of said mods to combine them because you demand it. Come on, if you really want it that bad do it yourself big boy.
You may notice I didn’t even bring up the three civilizations I did for this game myself. I know they are not up to snuff, but hey, I had a fun time doing them. And then I moved on, and I just come back to this game when I feel like it. I have a life outside this game, wild I know.
Yes they cancelled the DLC, yes the game’s balance is thoroughly broken and there’s a lot of obvious bugs it’d take like 5 minutes to fix. Whatever, it happened, let’s just move on.
Either fix it yourself or go play something else, don’t start begging people to do it for you.
You keep talking about how WE take the right direction for the game, how we can combine the other mods, we started sharing ideas. Bro what do you mean we? What are YOU bringing to the table?
Who died and put you in charge, where suddenly you can start claiming you can make the grand ultimate mod that will fix all the things that are wrong yet have shown 0 actual effort put into it.
You have no communication with the community at large, no idea where the game’s balance is at, hell, you don’t even know how to design a custom civilization, do you?
Be real for a second. Either have an actual plan with clear goals or stop wasting everybody’s time.
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@zeppelino24 I want to know what you actually want from this idea. It sounds like what you really want is for the production of the game to continue?
Balance mods are typically pointless IMO. They aren’t hard to code, but you can’t play them on the ladder so what’s the point? There’s no modder unification for that, what you need is for the top players to write out a list of changes they want and then they can play it in tournaments.
Aside from balance what exactly are you asking for? Like HoopThrower said, there are already big mods out there with decent sized teams working on them. Have you tried them?
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Yes, I’ve tried several mods, but so far there’s nothing quite like Napoleon Era or Wars of Liberty in the Age of Empires 3 Definitive Edition mod assets. Based on that, we can say that while the other mods are good, they don’t fully reflect the historical period of the official game. That’s why this post is here: to encourage modders to create something that truly corresponds to the official game, and also, as I’ve said before, to financially support the modders so their work is also rewarded. Of course, this is only if the community agrees; nothing is mandatory in this life. The modders and the community have the final say.
Of course, Hoop Thrower, I respect your opinion, and I can only clarify that while it’s true I’m not a modder, I have created Metropolis cards with their descriptions and unique art for some new revolutions. However, creating entirely new units is something I’m still not very experienced with. There’s an old saying, “Don’t judge a book by its cover.” While you’re right about some of the points you make, others seem more like a direct attack, but don’t worry, you’re probably younger than me, and that’s why I understand young rebels. Anyway, my position is to continue posting ideas to improve the game, foster unity to continue developing the game, and support other projects and opinions from other forum members as much as I can. Your opinion is respected, and as I’ve said before, the final decision on undertaking a project of the scale I’m suggesting in this post rests with you. I’ve never forced anyone to do anything, nor do I consider myself the director of anything; this is just my humble opinion. opinion and suggestion which I seek to project in this publication
I have some experience creating Metropolis cards with their descriptions and unique artwork. If anyone finds my knowledge useful, I’d be happy to help create Metropolis deck cards, whether for Civilization or Revolution. As I’ve said before, everyone can contribute in one way or another. There are many good ideas that can be implemented; it’s just a matter of choosing the most requested ones. Modders can also share their ideas so we know the direction we want to take in this post.