I always wanted a single player campaign DLC. While I am a mostly multiplayer player, the campaigns are my favourite part of the game. I wouldn’t mind to pay 13 euros for a campaign DLC with 4 new campaigns or 19 NEW battles scenarios with solid historical background at intros-outros, new arts for the map and intros-outros and some new hero skins and objects.
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Can’t grasp the logic of complaining about a totally optional single player content that does not affect the rest of the game and that also costs as much as a pizza in Rome.
People really have too much free time.
That’s the problem, I’ve seen too many complaining that the DLC has no multiplayer addition, or that the DLC have no new civ, when both of this things were announced from the beginning.
Also this is a good way to support the company for making good content in the future (instead of donating, paying a small price for 19 scenarios is better). For 90% of its history this game was pirated, this company needs more support.
You are very welcome.
How come a “single-player target audience” does not know anything about a model that has been in the scenario editor since release?
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I was pretty excited about a campaign-only DLC but this ain’t it brotha. It is really unfortunate because this may make them shy away from PROPER campaign DLC in the future. A good idea that wasn’t properly executed, and worst of all was built around deceit.
I feel like World’s Edge was behind this more than FE. WE doesn’t understand this franchise or it’s playerbase and until that changes things like this will continue. Before, it was just 3DE getting the shaft but they’ve been mismanaging their cash cow (2DE) and that isn’t good for any of us no matter what game they primarily play.
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- Single player audience means campaigns and scenarios and not scenario editor, you can use scenario editor for multiplayer means also.
- What about all the heroes in the new scenarios? Were they all in the editor at launch?
here = this thread.
even in this forum or steam reviews I haven’t seen any review that says “I downvote because it’s singleplayer only”. Every complaint I’ve seen is “for this price, it needs to contain civs”
Ninja has been in the game since DE. It’s not a new unit model. Can you show a screen shot of those units. I’m happy to retract this point if there are any actual new assets
maybe lead with that. Because everyone else had a 15% discount. The price was 11.04 eur, 12.99 eur without discount, for everyone else I’ve heard of. I think at less than 10 eur the outcry for this would have been way lower. although I think a proper price for this should be <5 eur
I apologize for not being able to read your mind and knowing your regional pricing. You still don’t understand inflation if you think reducing content by 80% and increasing price by 30% is due to inflation.
you can fuck right off with your ad hominem attacks
I tried to somehow salvage this situation with constructive advice on how to garner some favour with the community. Well done on pulling the conversation into the dirt
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Some wise man once taught me “sure AOE3 was mistreated, but it also needs to do better to earn fair treatment”.
So now everyone earns that level of treatment.
XD
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I find this unlikely. Star Wars Episode 1 was new just before AoK was released, with Episodes 2 and 3 released within a few years. Thus it makes more sense to me that those references are aimed at the original players who would have played AoK/The Conquerors and seen the Star Wars prequels around the same time. You don’t appeal to a younger audience by referencing films that are 19-25 years old. (That said, that makes me the target demographic but I missed most of the references. Not a Star Wars prequels fan.)
Also, really not on topic, but…
This surprises me, and I sort of expected that AoE2 players would be at least 30. Nice to know there are some younger players. Well, at least one younger player.
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This Europezero fellow needs to first get off his high horse, go into the editor and see what is there.Enough of his nonsense.
Nothing new was added. I monitor this closely as a scenario modder/developer.
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Wow another toxic and violent guy on this thread, imagine being triggered by a totally optional DLC (and by people liking it) that does not affect the rest of the game and that costs as much as a pizza in Rome.
I like it, if you don’t you can refund it, simple.
But as mentioned before, people really have too much free time.
For me is a better way to support the company by paying 9.87 euros (the cost at launch on steam in Romania) for some scenarios added officially on the campaigns menu instead of just simply donating 10 euros for nothing (A thing that only real fans would do - 1% of people here).
And lets not forget that this game was pirated 90% of its history, and that it deserves our support.
I was tempted to say America, but we have an inflation rate of only 3.1%. Even that small amount is wreaking havoc. Can’t imagine what 30% would do.
So they could well openly advertise that “we copy-pasted user-generated scenarios with almost no updates or improvements, in order to support our map makers” and the grateful people like you will purchase it anyway.
Why did they NOT say any of these? Maybe because if they did they will not trick people who are not aware of how little effort there is into buying it?
So least those who advertise the game do not have the same virtue as you.
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It’s less to do with the age of the films and everything to do with the memes themselves. While I am aware that the older generation likes memes (my brother, who is 11 years older than me, likes many of the same memes I do), appealing to memes so frequently sets a silly tone that younger people are more likely to appreciate.
Yeah, I wasn’t even born when either version of the original AoE2 came out. However, it’s nostalgic for me because I remember watching my brother play it. Eventually, I started playing it on my own, surpassing his own play rate. Now today, while I still suck, I am significantly better than him at the game, at the point where if we played 10 games, I would probably beat him in 9, if not all 10. That would be embarrassing if not for the fact that I play it a lot more than he does, so I would naturally be better, and I also rigorously study the optimal meta used by pros, something that irritates him to no end. He basically hates the fact that units other than knights and archers are completely unusable, especially infantry, which historically formed the backbone of militaries. Anyway, that’s enough about that.
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Because that’s not how advertising works, and nobody will sell a thing saying: we copy-pasted user-generated scenarios with almost no updates or improvements
Do you realize that can’t be written on a steam page right? 
Also for people that never bought or played Age of Empires before this DLC is new jucy content.
It is very good for new audiences.
If it can’t be written on a Steam page, you shouldn’t do it. Honest marketing is a lost art.
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Bro, you are using every single bad argument to defend this DLC.
The most recent DLC is Mountain Royals, which costs $15 and has more content. Compare it to V&V, and you’ll see there’s no way it costs $13.
So what? There’s no point in comparing food to videogames, they’re very different things. $13 is fine for a meal, not for such a terrible product. Also, you’re not supposed to pay for whatever garbage you’re given just because it’s “cheap”. Evaluate if it’s good, then pay.
We knew this from day one. And I’m literally the target audience, since I’m a campaign-only player. And I still hate it.
Also, about the “price” part… I’m from a country where this DLC is $7 instead of $13. Even then, I don’t want to pay for it.
Doesn’t matter that YOU didn’t know they existed. The fact is they already existed, some people played them, some didn’t. But what matters is they copied and pasted free scenarios, made them “official”, promised lots of improvements (which didn’t arrive) and tried to sell it.
Accepting this garbage DLC because “you didn’t know the scenarios were a thing” or “don’t look for mods” is simply being ignorant, in my opinion.
I don’t buy DLC for heroes with unique models, that’s simply a nice detail for DLCs to add, but hardly the main reasn. Still, show us a screenshot if they really are new.
Depends what the content is. In this case, I can play the custom scenarios for free. Better value, right?
You can’t? Alright, let me explain it in simple terms… When a company makes a product, and lots of people like it and buy it, the company will take notes and make more of the same product.
Now, imagine a company makes the absolutely laziest, low-effort product they’ve ever created, and despite it being bad, it sells well. They will learn their customers will accept anything they make, so there’s no reason to make good content again.
Understand?
Appeal to emotion. Again, this argument has been made thousands of times, but it makes no sense. The customers are not responsible for the company’s profits, nor guilty if they lose money. Customers simply support the “product”, not the company. If companies want support, they’ll make good things that sell well. If they don’t, they don’t recieve support. It’s very simple, and I will not lose any sleep if this DLC does badly. We are talking about Microsoft of all companies, the biggest one in existence. They can handle a bad DLC.
And like I’ve said before, supporting bad things can do further harm in the future.
Triggered? No, at least for my part I’m not frothing at the mouth and traumatised by this. What happened is people were given a bad DLC and are rightfully pointing it out. Or are you saying that, for example, people who hated Cyberpunk at release were just triggered and dumb?
Oh really? What’s this then?
Of course, you wouldn’t realize how blatant it was until you saw for yourself…
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#Petition for steam to remove the toxic “not recommended” button.
Then DO NOT try to sell such things in the first place if you CANNOT sell it when telling the truth
For people who have little knowledge about medicine, a product that claims it can cure cancer or Alzheimer or fanboy syndrome is also new juicy content.
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As well as honest journalism is also lost and the examples can continue.
They said the truth, it is written on the steam page: ‘‘Community-generated inspiration’’, just not with those words you used, because they cant be used like that on a steam page
Since when did inspiration mean copy pasting?
Speaking about the steam page:
“Each scenario has been updated and polished with full, professional voice acting, music, rebalancing, bugfixes, achievements, and quality of life improvements”
Where?
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Sure, they lied when they announced the DLC, but at least they’re telling the truth on the Steam page! Well, it’s actually a half-truth, but it’s technically true. Also, the DLC might be ass, but at least they’re not lying (because it’s illegal and it would get removed from Steam). Also, they can’t be completely honest about the blatant rehashing and copy-pasting, because people would not buy it, so they have to lie by omission, but still…
Please buy!
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