Relic is AoEIV
Tantalus and FE are AoEIIDE and AoEIIIDE.
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This is disappointing. Very disappointing.
It’s weird they picked Mexico. Historically, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru and Gran Colombia make a lot, a lot more sense than Mexico. They probably thought “latinos! so let’s pick Mexico!” like when Trump said “Mexican countries in South America” or something.
Or maybe they just wanted to make something easy and fast, and picked Mexico just because of their short war against France. Either way it’s lazy.
Italy, Morocco, Persia, Congo, Siam, Mapuches made more sense around the world. As for colonial nations, Brazil, Argentina, Chile, Peru and Gran Colombia were better picks by far and could provide more campaign material.
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Imo they wanted Mexico because they interacted directly with the US
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¡ARRIBA MEXICO CARAJO!
Nice, I was getting tired of lamming Ports… Bro, I will lame so much Mexico on ladder next month.
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I remember people of the spanish playerbase complaining about the lack of care about the hispanohablantes… Well, and people had to accept USA too late in the game.
Somewhat the civs that were revolutions give me a Naga feeling, when people from Warcraft 3 asked for them being playable along the other 4 races.
Tbh it seems to me like a scrapped “north american revolutionary nations” dlc idea.
If you add up what the US and Mexico DLC offers, it’s two new civs with similar mechanics, and 3 historical battles around those civs.
Looks very similar to the African DLC.
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Was it really necessary though?
As I said, there are better options. Off the top of my head, even Poland-Lithuania commonwealth makes more sense. Plus the other nations I mentioned in my previous posts. Highlighting Italy of course.
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In reality, of all the former colonies of America, the one that makes the most sense is Mexico, they fight against great powers, such as Spain, USA, England and France. It has a very interesting story, I don’t see any waste.
If we talk about countries that fought against powers, in second place comes Argentina, which in its early days as an independent nation fought against Spain, Portugal, England, France and even had an altercation with the USA.
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Spain: like any other colonial nation that used to be part of the Spanish empire. England: skirmishers like Argentina, Ecuador, Peru and Gran Colombia. France: a formal war of 5 years and a half (short by the standard of that era). Even Brazil and Gran Colombia had longer conflicts.
The only country that makes it more relevant is USA. As other mentioned, they probably added Mexico as a leftover of what was supposed to be a north american dlc.
But still, USA was released solo. Considering other options, that’s what makes this disappointing.
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No disappointment from me, only hype!
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Tilanus, Vividly, pereira etc. are all forgotten empires. i dont know the exact split but i think the designers at large are FE. its actually surprising to me that the remaining tantelus members aren’t absorbed into FE.
i dont think chile, argentina and peru honestly can argue they are as important as the mexico. mexico is huge both in population and area and had wars with both the US and europeans.
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eu realmente fiquei um pouco desapontado eu esperava O brasil ,italianos ou koreanos .
Isn’t aoe4 relic? Tantalus is aoe3 DE
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Argentina liberated Chile through San Martin´s campaign before Mexico was a country and they also conquered the Mapuche and was part of the War of the Triple Alliance later. They are almost as good I would argue
If we do get another new world civ Brazil would have to be it.
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In reality, each country in the area had its global importance in some way, not just Mexico. Argentina, for example, during the war of independence, apart from fighting against Spain, hired many privateers to fight against Spain in very remote places such as the Philippines and Mexico, it also defeated the English invasions, limited the expansion of Portugal and then Brazil from the north. It resisted very important naval blockades of France and England and intervened multiple times in practically all its neighbors. That is much more than Brazil, which had mostly internal problems.
Chile and Peru I think they fought against Spain after the war of independence in approximately 1860 and between them.
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this is actually great timing since I should be done with the aoe 4 campaign and ready to relearn the hotkeys by the time this comes out
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Argentina helped Chile in its war for independence in 1817. Then San Martin (Argentina) joined Peru to fight against Spain during its independece. Gran Colombia fought Spain and England, after that Bolivar (Gran Colombia) went south to fight the last remnants of Spain in Peru. As a result Peru had the longest independence campaign in the americas out of the mentioned countries. Brazil fought against the french, the english and the tupi confederation. Years later in 1864, the triple alliance war happened, involving Brazil, Argentina and Paraguay. Which is considered the most brutal war in the americas. Last but not least, Chile and Peru fought against Spain after they gained their independence. After that, Chile and Peru fought against Spain a second time in 1865. Ecuador and Bolivia joined the war in 1866. Then the 4 countries finally defeated Spain in 1871.
aoe3 WoL
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yeah Great Colombia must be added if we have Mexico
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