Im also Scandinavian and as you can see I have a totally different opinion than you.
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Yes, they were a nation.
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“was a loose federation of East Slavic and Uralic peoples in Europe”
Still a nation.
Do not try to twist it, they were a composite, but unified political entity, at least as much as most in the Middle Ages.
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exactly they were a composite as you say. And as I said the concept of a nation state is a much later invention
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Otherwise the HRE is also not good because it was a federation too
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Exactly this is why I would like to see some “original new factions”,
existing ones have too many expectations how they are supposed to be depicted.
I mean, even on new factions, poeple will have expectations about how they are supposed to be depicted.
There will always be expectations that’s why I believe that it is best to just stick to the scientific consensus when it comes to choosing how to depict civs. That is the most neutral you can get.
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Age of Empires civs don’t get chosen based on whether they were empires, nations, composites, federations, or any other specific definition. It’s not a detail that has weight in the last 24 years.
The Kingdom of England was a sovereign state on the island of Great Britain from 12 July 927, when it emerged from various Anglo-Saxon kingdoms, until 1 May 1707, when it united with Scotland to form the Kingdom of Great Britain.
English fit perfectly within the timeframe
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Isn’t Oceania just that place from George Orwell’s 1984? Or is it an actual place?
Oceania is the geographic name of the landmass Australia is on.
It is a continent.
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I want Ethiopia in some form. They have interesting and long history. Managed to stay Christian in sea of Islam etc. And they had direct contact with rest of Eurasia unlike sub-Saharan empires.
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Most kingdoms of Eastern Europe werent as longlasting as the kingdoms of northern Peru (who were also fairly powerful) but Byzantines and probably Bulgarians would need to be added first
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The Hungarians lasted quite a while. They even beat the Mongols.
They lost actually. Anyway, agree on Hungarians but arent them a bit closer to central Europe?
Not an unique Ethiopian thing (Eurasian contact). Mali had it, the Swahili coast had it, Nubia had it, depending on where you set the end of the time frame you can count Kongo and Zimbabwe too. I’m probably forgetting some more.
And Ethiopia is Jewish too by the way. There are the Beta Israel. The Gudit/Yodit campaign is about the Beta Israel Queen with the same name.
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They did lost initial encounter but managed to repel them few years later so they didn’t end up under their rule like Russians for example.
By the standards of the time they were part of Catholic Europe unlike Russians so yes in that sense they were Western. But by today standards they are eastern Europe.
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Well there are just better names, Norse or Danes make more sense because they last much longer into the timeframe.
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