March PUP Notes

Absolutely Un-needed

What a waste of time , on baseless logic

Flamethrowers were only really used by the Song Dynasty and we still have those in the game.

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ERK is much better against infantry than dragons because the Aztecs lack artillery, grenadiers, or any units that do ranged area damage. Also, the Aztecs don’t have musketeers either. that is why it is correct that the ERK+arrow combo can defeat the musketeer+cannons combo despite the fact that the ERK is a dragon type unit, because, if I’m not mistaken, it is in fact their only alternative for the Aztecs to efficiently defeat said combo; Jaguars are melee units and will die under artillery fire before they can do enough damage and the otontin are very fragile and have 18 range.

Making the ERK have the same performance as the dragoons would be like leaving a European civilization with culverins and mortars as the only artillery units, without grenadiers, without musketeers and with a more fragile than normal skirmisher who does not have access to anti infantry rifles. that is too strong a handicap.

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Guess we now know where devs got the idea of nerfing Steel Bolt.

Why it has been changed chinacos card at III. It wasn’t broke, it only makes unusable that stratt, and mayas revo it’s still non-viable

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Muscovy actually
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It also proves that Simplified Chinese is poorly localized. Simplified Chinese translated into Russian

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Well, I mean that’s true though the Chinese civ is a mess due to the original devs putting any tons of anachronistic/mystic Orient stuff anyway…

Personally I’d like them to give them give them a total refresh aesthetically, so I’m naturally against anything out of the time frame to be added to them as it just adds to that little issue, ha :smiley:

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Hopefully a civ like Incas have a unit like the arrow knight. Give me arrow knights (who are not weak against culverins, unless something has changed in these months) and take away culverins, mortars and grenadiers.

Unit micromanagement is keeping your distance while taking down multiple Falconets with AK until you can penetrate with Otontin and Jaguar (Jaguar can be stealthier). The Otontin is a cost effective unit, obviously not comparable to a normal skirm because is way cheaper.

We also have the Community Plaza, which can buff units in combat, so again, the Aztec doesn’t need a “kill almost-everything” unit like ERK to deal with the combo you mentioned.

PoV:The devs with Finland…

Everything we are saying here is considering of course plaza effect, is a must to use them with natives.

Not too usefull when they lose the stealth when next to enemy units and buildings.

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Dutch needed it in late game. So the tulip speculation buff is appreciated. Imo I think it would be better if their merchants applied their mining buff to estates too, however. Right now they are baseline at coin gathering on estates.

AnyDiagram is known to have a very bad english.

They won’t add those units. He wishes that the devs add them.

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One thing you should know is that Aztec has no arsenal technology, so at the beginning of our discussion, we will include the community square, otherwise they can’t even compare with the properties of conventional European units

The fact is that they did not give any bonus to other Aztec units, and the stealth function itself could be automatically found to be greatly weakened when it was close to any unit earlier. The stone thrower lacked the multiple of anti-infantry, and could even be easily knocked down by the additional damage of artillery. The leopard warrior would die before he met his opponent. If you must weaken the only available eagle running knight in Aztec, please strengthen the whole Aztec on a large scale first, From military to economy

The same is true of the Inca. They have been excessively weakened in the previous version. The poison archers are too easy to die. The high occupation of the rope soldiers makes them extremely weak. Only the Chimu and the stone thrower can be used (even the stone thrower is also weak for the infantry), which makes their performance in the previous version in the treaty mode has been poor for a long time

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I’m sorry! My English seems to need practice to get rid of my bad English everybody know to have Forgive me,but I wishes that the devs add them This is the possible emergence of more new units that developers are concerned about :disappointed:

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A map called Moscovy,hummm :sweat_smile:

It is that you do not need a jaguar or its stealth. An anti cavalry unit that is ranged shock inf should not be used to counter the musk falc combo, what’s more, I see the Inca civilization having much more trouble dealing with it.

If you could tell me a different combo we could talk, but the ERK will still be a useful unit against other types of units after the nerf.

Don’t you know that the current stealth function is a joke? Use stealth in the fierce confrontation in the late stage? I hope there is no problem with your mind. The problem with Aztec’s update is that they are completely unable to fight the combination of musketeers and artillery, but you can open the topic and say that he can fight other combinations. What’s the use? Everyone knows your fatal flaw, and will definitely use this combination to fight against you. You will never have the chance to fight against other messy combinations.

The combination of Leopard Warriors against musketeers and artillery is the funniest joke I have heard in recent months. When you get a little closer, they have shown; Then they were immediately attacked by artillery, and even had no chance to kill half of the enemy’s life

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