New Balance Changes Thread

They are weaker than ever :rofl:

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All the Indian civs come with great economy and diverse tech trees, allowing them to be among the best in what they are specialized. That’s like the opposite of weak. :joy:

Their camels will be pretty insane now and a Paladin replacement that beats all Paladins.

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Diverse tech trees? They all have the weakest tech trees in the game apart from Gurjaras.

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The weakest? :joy: Please elaborate. Dravidians get everything they could imagine for Infantry and Archers, on top of a great eco and Wootz Steel.

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The devs have listened to us and lowered the cost of the rarely seen Genitour by 10F

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Nah. With no strong generalist like knights, archers, eagles or cav archers the civ will struggle a bit even if their camels are OP

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Sorry but the truth is, not every civ is and can be made with a power spike in Castle Age.

Look, these new civs don’t even get the regular Ram line, and the Siege Elephants are only as good as Capped Rams, not Siege Rams. Their blast radius is too small, and they have only 4 attack.

These new cis have no CA at all. Instead they get a heavily nerfed Elephant Archer…

They don’t have so many blacksmith armor techs…
EAs dont have Parthian Tactics, some dont even have bloodlines and husbandry
Chakrams dont have Squires and Blast Furnace
Ghulams dont have Plate armor
Two of these civs dont have Thumb ring

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They must miss some of these techs to balance out their bonuses which would be broken otherwise. Such as faster attacking Elephants or more bonus damage for mounted units coupled with faster creation times and 25% discounted military units.

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How is faster attacking Elephant broken?? Khmer have +10% speed and +3 damage with boosted economy, Cavaliers, Hussars, Scorpions and decent Arbs.

The bonuses are not even broken

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At this point you are just fearmongering. The new civs arent even on par with so many old civs. Looking at your history of messages it doesnt look like you like these Indian civs at all.

All these streams today, and there wasnt a single case of a very powerful unit, not even Ratha

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That does not come close to what some of the Indian civs are getting. The Khmer +3 Attack only affects Battle Elephants and +10% movement speed for Elephants has little impact in practice.

I have watched them and from what I saw, the devs once again did a great job in regards to balance.

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Little Impact?? Thats why Khmer were completely broken in TG-s last year and needed a nerf to their Eles.

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And you want nerfs to be necessary for these Elephant civs too? Once they get going behind a solid eco, nothing can stop them.

Halberdiers exists, Siege exists, Elephant are never a threat in Castle Age. The game is not about 800ELO-s who cant stop Elephants.

And so do Skirmishers.

What? Did you even understand what he said
I am starting to feel like @CloudAct is trolling on many of the active threads

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Please, dont overextend with elephant discussions and focus in the thread main point: leaked changes

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Elephant Archers are also part of this discussion due to the tremendous nerf they have received this patch, aren’t they?

Most of the changes relate to Elephants especially the Elephant Archer

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