Jews are an ethno-religious group, so we’re more than just a religion.
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would be a bit sad to loose the topic. Lets ignore the people who want personal fights and focus on the topic.
This civ would be exotic, but it would be fun. Yes, it would fall more into the category of the Romans, which are justifiable in 500-1500, but thats not really their peak time frame. Still, its fun to have them in the game and still get a glimpse of that world shifting power they once had.
Same would be true for the Jews
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Just for a while, meanwhile we see what happens here.
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Ok, thread reopened. Please remember this rule.
Discuss Jewish civilization only, do not talk about religious topics that have nothing to do with Age of Empires 2.
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Just lock this thread tbh. If the thread was about “Khazars” then would’ve made sense. But the way it is represented, is too controversial to talk about.
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I do admit already in the introduction, that it is far-fetched. Still, this forum is not only about the most realistic idea / civs, because after all, yes, AOE2 is quite historical, but it is still a game, not reality.
Jews would be a fun civ because of the implications it delivers, the emotions it could generate. This is again a thought experiment and not a manual
Ok, I have no clue about whether or not this thread was intended to be legitimately a civ discussion or a troll, but I’m going to proceed as if it is legitimate. If not, oh well.
You could definitely get a theme around monks with the Jews (I see this as a primarily RoR/AoE1 civ, so I’m taking this in the vein of the “Israelites”), specifically monotheism. I would even say they should have the tech free as a specific bonus, or alternatively have discounts on temple techs as a more broad bonus. I can also see a heavy focus on slingers, specifically, since they were featured multiple times throughout early accounts of Israelite events. I’m thinking a damage buff is fitting for Israelite Slingers.
When considering their AoE1 timeline location, I can make a few assumptions about their tech tree, although i have no confidence in making my own civ concept, so I’ll leave that to the more qualified folks.
They did have access to the sea, meaning I could see some naval prowess, but nothing top of the line. They’d be having a few holes here, and depending on if you want to depict them as only the KoI or larp late as a Macedonian/Roman Province, they could either miss fire galleys or catapult ships, respectively.
Cavalry weren’t really much of a thing in Ancient Israel, so I’d say they would need a weaker stable. Scouts, chariots only?
Ranged combat should be a thing for these guys, especially for slingers (a la David and Goliath mythos) so simple and composite bowmen and chariot archer out of the Range would work imo.
Then with the barracks; axemen, Long Swords, and buffed slingers. As far as siege goes, I can maybe see fu ballistas if we’re going the Roman Larp way, but maybe only stone thrower, since they weren’t all that known for sieging others.
As far as the academy goes, I could see up to phalangite.
Defenses wise, I think Guard tower is appropriate for defense; their economic game should be mid though. They were in a desert, after all. Most of their resources should be given through trade.
And that’s pretty much it as far as my ideas for the Israelites extend.
With the chronicles DLCs where is now a real possibility for a Judean civ. And a campaign including the Maccabean Revolt: The Jewish Uprising against the Seleucid Empire.
I expect the next chronicles DLC to be about Alexander the great. In this would be a lot of new civs (Thracians, Egyptians, Nubians, Phoenicians, mauryans and nada) since he went from Greece to Egypt and India. And considering Rome at war had all these civs designed already we mainly need the new models and campaign.
After his it is time for Alexanders legacy around Seleucids, pontus, greater armenia, and Judeans. Also all these civs were in the Rome at war mod.
Hopefully the Judeans don’t get the female priest. They had quite iconic priests.
After that we will for sure get chronicles around Rome.
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They will never revisit the game mode in future like they did with all other game modes.
Your negativity is blinding you. They already said more is coming.
They have already said this many times before. Nothing happened.
Yes, I complain about the delay of the Baltic DLC for AoE 3 for this dlc, but I’ll buy this DLC, I’ll buy it, give me my 300 in my pocket… this even opens the door to having a chronicle of the Barbarian Invasions (390 BC-378 AD) (Roman Republic and Imperial Rome vs Celts and Goths) and Three Kingdoms (220-280 AD)…
I think Simon bar Kokhba would be an interesting campaign character. Bar Kokhba lead a rebellion (132-136) against the Roman Empire. The Jewish state he and his followers established lasted about three years until the Roman troops defeated them, though the Romans suffered heavy losses, too. There are documents (letters) possibly written or dictated by Bar Kokhba himself. Traits of his personality are known, as well as names of individual followers.
The thread’s suggestion is for AoE2’s time period, your suggestion would better fit for AoE1.
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I think a campaign about Herod the Great would be more interesting. Conquering Judea with Roman help and overthrowing the Hasmoneans, then also fighting the Nabataeans and also having a conflict with Cleopatra (I think, I don’t remember too well)
Uh oh you forgot? AoE2 is not AoE2 anymore.
Upgraded Elites…
Will the “LEFT handed stone throwers” change to their right?!?
We’ll be f’d!!!
Lefthanded have higher accuracy