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probably it means the dlc was to come out with the april update, but they pushed back the dlc to may 6 so they cant change the civ for tanguts for now

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I would also love to know how they feel now. They had so much time to change their decision and announce the potential delay and the reason for it

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Patch notes says the civ was earlier Tanguts. Later changed to Khitans.

People read way to far into that patch note.

The patch note didn’t say “Tanguts being replaced with a Tangut civ”

The patch notes said “Tanguts civ replaced”

the delay in replacing it currently is likely because it requires more work than just swaping civs scenarios do weird things like that.

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Umm…what? Where does it say it was Tanguts civ before?

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Here:

So it means we will get Tanguts in the future or what?

Can you imagine if we get the Gallic and Palmyrene Empires for the next DLC :rofl:

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The “Tanguts” here is the player colored in Red, not the civilization of “Tanguts”.

another DLC messed up… what a dissappointment! i keep supporting the game and preordered it but it is the last time i tolerate such bad DLC product… no campaigns for the 2 medieval civs or the chinese/koreans??? wow! ancient china clans for civs???

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Again, That does not say that they were planing to change it to a different civ previously.

What it says is:

This change (changing the "tangut player civ to Khitans) was posponed.

People attempting to read that as “They were going to change it to tanguts, and now its Khitans” have poor reading comprehension

But this item was not included in the previous version of the announcement.

The item absolutely was included in the previous announcement. They said they were changing the civ of the tangut player 2 in that scenario (which currently the civ used to represent the tanguts is chinese)

the only thing they did not include in the announcment was what civ the tanguts would be changed to. Which was obviously to keep it a secret until the announcment. They didn’t say the Kara-Khati for the other scenarios where “being changed to the Khitans”, they just said those players in those scenarios would be changed from what they are now (mongols)

Now that the Civs are announced, they could elaborate on what the change actually is (which is changing the Tanguts from using the Chinese Civilization to the Khitan civilization). That change has been delayed.

At no point did they say they were changing the tangut player to a new tangut civ. At no point does this clarification of delay indicate that it previously was intended to change it to a tangut civ. It does not say that, people are adding words that aren’t there.

Tangut is the name of one of the AI factions in the 3rd scenario. It is not a civilization. When they said they were “Changed the civilization of “Jin” and Tangut” those are player names not civilizations.

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But I don’t think there is a corresponding relationship between these two descriptions.

One more thing, there is a line in Wei’s bonus that reads’ Hei Guang Cavalry and Xianbei Raider+15/30% HP in Castle/Imperial Age '.

This is very strange because obviously only Wei has the Xianbei Raider, and it designed this unique unit, but rewarded it in the Bonus. Why not just let Xianbei Raider receive the data after the reward?

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What surprises is not having any teouble for Hsi Hsia or Xi Xia. Why they don’t say this player civ also can’t be changed? Hsi Hsia or Xi Xia was literally the Tanguts empire of that time.

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But I don’t think there is a corresponding relationship between these two descriptions.

Then I can’t help you. It’s very clearly the same patch note.

Even if you somehow don’t think they are related. Both patch notes do not say they were changing a previously added tangut civilization to Khitans. Both patch notes are refering to the Tangut Player in the scenario

Player 2, the red player, is called the Tanguts. They are currently the chinese, the change is to make them Khitans

What surprises is not having any teouble for Hsi Hsia or Xi Xia. Why they don’t say this player civ also can’t be changed? Hsi Hsia or Xi Xia was literally the Tanguts empire of that time.

No clue. Thats a developer question. Maybe they didn’t want to change the original age of kings scenario that much. Maybe they wanted it for faction diversity. maybe they just think Chinese better represent the Xi Xia at that time.

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More that “on the Into China mission, we faced issue on changing the civ to khitan, so until we fixe that, it stay as it is, but will become khitan once we solved that issue.”

As the V&V mission features them, it’s definitly the mission script that cause troubles.

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But it worked fine in Genghis Khan 1 & 2.

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Yeah, it’s because they were lying. Now that it’s obvious they lied about the tanguts, and the chinese split, updating the tanguts in “Into China” no longer serves any deceitful purpose. They’ve been updating civs since forgotten but THIS is the one that got super hard. Also the ONLY thing they walked back from the initial patch notes. Mind boggling co-incidence. Super duper unlucky that.

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So it’s an ai / trigger script issue specific to mission 3,

But I don’t remember this mission as a script heavy one…Need to replay all those OG campaigns ahaha.