Well, expansion name has sometimes nothing to do with civilization added. Like The Conquerors that added Koreans. As orginal developer said, they added Koreans not because they were conquerors but to bait Korean players to get the game. Here we have “Dawn of the Dukes”. It’s not “Dawn of the Dukes of Duchies that exist more than 60 years”. Poland even as a “newborn” duchy were fighting with Holy Roman Empire with success. So in any Polish campaign, when Poland was a duchy they could fight in campaign: Teutons, Vikings, Bohemians ( if added ), Slavs ( Bohemians or Ruthenians ) and Balts ( Lithuanians ). But we still need to wait to see official info from devs what’s civs are going to be added.
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Thats like calling an expansion that adds Byzantines “dawn of the Latin Empire”. It makes sense, but its just doesnt feel right. I think that using Poles as an example of Eastern duchy is just a bad choice
With two campaigns based on two of the preexisting Duchy civs and then a Bohemian civ naming it “Dawn of the Dukes” would be fine I guess
The whole idea of having mere duchies as civs is a stretch for me anyway. I guess at this point any political entity from the period is a possibility. Yet there are two (Grand) duchies I know of that exceded beyond the normally accepted turm of a duchy. Lithuania and Moscow their political and military power was more like of a Kingdom or even an Empire.
PS. The Balkans are in East Europe
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I think that georgians got to missed corpse catapults.
I just want a new unique siege unit.
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Now that I think about it this DLC will probably just be “Slavs v Teutons: Dawn of the Dukes”
Whatever civilizations will be in it, I hope the DLC will be released soon because I already cannot wait
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The Balkans are closer to mediterranean that what we consider eastern europe
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I agree with You. But It’s “Dawn of the Dukes” not Duchies. Poland was kingdom in 1025, but later Poland had Dukes/Princes too. Because for example pope or emperor won’t give access for coronation. Later in 1138 Poland is divided in to duchies up to XIV century. There is no Poland on the map, but small duchies fighting each other.
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I see You everywhere posting about corpse catapults 11
But I agree with you, It would be cool to get a mangonel that shot dead cows to poison area for few secs. Maybe not as UU, but could be unit in Scenario Editor.
Depends what devision is chosen if it is East/West EU they go in East. You could say Southern, too or South East EU. Regardless expansion based on East EU does not exclude the Balkans.
If we think more of possible civs we have Portugese added in the African Kingdoms Expansion so having civ that interacted with duchies should be enough of justification.
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They said summer… August?
Balkans are considered east europe, Greece is considered south europe.
But anyway, it depends from your point of view.
Yes, we absolutely do not need more useless units.
Clearly you dont have much knowledge about the current issues on the TG ladder. Or you just dont care about TGs at all.
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lol u really think they will sell a new dlc with just campaigns?
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well Poland, Bohemia (both duchies at some point), Swabia, Austria (there are many important german duchies, I’m only naming 3 of the most important ones), Moscovy, Aquitaine (france), Livonia (baltic)
Just to name a few, don’t expect to see most of them, but its possible to see a few
Their marketing would be quiet weird if this DLC had new civs. Remember: the fan event was advertised with “new civs etc”. We saw new civs for AoE4 and AoE3 with one coming pretty soon and more African civs got teased. Why not do it for AoE2 as well? Every DLC was advertised with “new civilisations” first. As I stated earlier, the devs might just want to double down on the very well recieved campaigns, but want to be more reluctant about the poorly recieved new civs. Who knows. At this point it would make more sense to slow down with civs, especially with the new DLC coming half a year after the first one. New campaigns are cheap and easy to make and sell pretty well.
If you think they will add new civs, why do you think they would phrase it how they did?
It’s anyway weird how they ended with “…and much more to come”. TBH as a singleplayer dude, new civs get me excited, new campaigns not really. Yes, they might be fun for playing once, but I won’t pay 5 bucks for a Lithuanian campaign, even if it is 10 scenarios long.
A civ in terms of gameplay hours has much more value than any campaign will ever have.
Most likely. Their goal clearly is to release a DLC with two civs and campaigns every six months. Lords of the west was released on 26/1/2021. So that’s either late July or early August.
Interesting they choose Duchy even when both were kingdoms at some point