New surprise DLC on 25th anniversary?

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Same here.

An YouTube video that I don’t remember.

If you meant including the ones last year, V&V of course was terrible. I believe Return of Rome was some attempt to make Aoe1 fans buy Aoe2, a cheap sales tactic. But whats wrong with Mountain Royals? It was pretty good, 2 usable civs, a bunch of new concepts, 3 campaigns with interesting gameplay.
As far as patches are concerned, many people have also complained about too many frequent patches and changes. Redbull might have also specifically requested not to make any big changes since their announcement. Plus patches that released within a couple of months from the previous patch, have had many bugs and technical issues. So its probably ok to try a slower patch release.

To me its quite the opposite. Amongst civ DLCs, DOI was hyped and teased a lot only to give 3 civs, 2 of which are the worst by far amongst newly released civs. Imo DOI is 2nd worst civ DLC we’ve had, ROR being the worst overall. Dotd, Lotw and Mountain Royals are quite decent.

There’s been mixed opinions on this. Some people didn’t like DLC getting announced several months before release like it happened with Dotd.

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Here’s the problem though…we don’t know.

A simple post explaining that there wouldn’t up updates until after RBW would have gone a long way.

Yes, but the Goths would be more Central and Western Europe (Visigoths in Spain and Ostrogoths in Italy)…

Yes, not to mention a DLC in the Middle East…luckily we had TMR before all this…

Well, you have the Mongols and Tartars, but yes, some Central Asian tribes like the Tibetans and the Jurchens would be nice…

Yes, as happens with AoE 3…

Well, DoI was quite well accepted by the new Indian civs, LotW was quite controversial because of the Sicilian and Burgundian crowns (I did like them, they gave that touch to AoM/AoE 3) and TMR passed without pain or glory except for the Persian campaign and rework…

I don’t think there will be a Japanese campaign, there are already enough Japanese scenarios in the game… Chinese and Korean campaigns seem more likely…

Yes, realistically it would be 2-3 civs and 3-4 campaigns and out… since TLK we have not had more DLCs with 4 civs…

Yes, I think they could make a Middle East DLC with campaigns for Phoenicians, Assyrians and Persians and then another East Asia DLC for Shang, Choson and Lac Viet…

Yes, RoR has several chronological gaps between 1000 and 401 BC (which would be the rise of Assyria, Babylon, Persia and Classical Greece), then another between 171 and 75 BC (the Lusitanian and Celtiberian Wars and the Third Punic and Macedonian Wars) and finally from 117 to 373 AD (the barbarian invasions from the 2nd to the 4th century AD and obviously Cao Cao and the Three Kingdoms) that they could fill…

They could just be new achievements for all civs in general, but 319 sounds like too much to me… a normal DLC has at most 40 achievements, 50 with all the fury…

Yes, I think the same, if it’s not a DLC per month… it’s November for AoE 2 DE and 4 and December for AoE 3 DE and AoM Retold…

Nah, not even close…with luck some small wonder and little else…

Yes, from that area you have the Hawaiians and Maoris of AoE 3 WoL mod, but of course until the 19th century they were guys with wooden clubs, spears, javelins and burly guys who used logs as battering rams… it was only in the 19th century that they had access to gunpowder, muskets and firearms…

Yeah, I think that when they run out of ideas for DLC, they’ll resort to discarded content…

Pacific civs=Mesoamericans 2.0 but they only reach Castle Age and do not have a siege workshop but they have very good naval bonuses (there they would include the canoe and the catamaran as regional units)…

More fitting would be if they only go to feudal age since they never had castles. Canoe’s that can convert enemy ships would be fitting. And the unique unit would come from the barracks, replaces the existing units and is cheaper so that you can mass spawn it to overrun the enemy. That would be somewhat realistic, but would not really feel like a aoe2 civ.

Yes, I also thought that they only reached feudal age, but otherwise they would be very limited… although I read that the Polynesians had some rock fortifications on some islands but that they were not European-style castles but natural bunkers…

Neither did the Aztecs and Mayans, and what you’re saying isn’t even true. Polynesians had hillfort villages that basically functioned as castles, and so did Melanesians (who also had ring forts). You’re seriously underestimating the societal achievements of Oceania peoples. They were probably only slightly behind the Mesoamerican peoples, and far more advanced when it came to shipbuilding and navigation (they were probably some of the best non-European seafarers). They could absolutely be able to advance to the Imperial Age. Do not let their reputation as primitive people make them appear stupid; they were ingenious and knew how to make the most of what they had.

That’s fair. I think in the future they should post the approximate PUP date for the next big balance patch.

SOTL went from “Chu-Ku-Nu” overview to “Jaguar Warrior” overview. Unless my memory betrayed me, he didn’t skip a civ overview after UU overview ever since DE. I think we can 100% confirm this is a Chinese DLC with Chinese rework/major changes.

It has. He has done this several times, with the Teutonic Knight being a notable example, as he has yet to redo his Teutons overview.

true tho teutons haven’t changed much, and it’s relatively new. he has older civ overviews.

the current chinese overview is one of the oldest. So too are the aztecs. It may be he just has multiple videos in the works at any given time and his whims just lead him to do the jaguar video next.

Again, it’s like so many things about this DLC, it kinda looks like a hint, but it could just be noise.

Yeah. We need to avoid looking for things that confirm what we think is coming, and actually look for clues. Otherwise we are just after confirmation bias.

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Technically there was no india or indians during the medieval era.

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AoE socials posted today, just a short bit on RBW. So looks like nothing today either.

Well at least they consider RBW “done”, and so hopefully will be moving on to other things…

What about yesterday’s post?

Just a random video to vibe with Aoe2’s environement.

Yeah, clearly nothing to do with teasing a DLC. Just promoting fan content.

I sure hope so, because this stable is Eastern European and it’s really not the time for that :laughing:

I hope the Ming dynasty is represented in the new rework of the Chinese in the new DLC of AOE II DE, it would be an excellent way to win the Asian market

They already are, current Chinese civ covers all ethnic Han dynasties including Tang, Song and Ming.

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