Overdue Poll: Most wanted Native American civ?

All the time I hope “Buffalo” will also add some Native civs from North America.

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Yes, but you cannot count them as a Native civ.

Mayans actually revolted against teh Spanish and held their own state in 1800s. They would have been a much better choice than Aztecs.
As it is, though, they would havce the same issue Incas have, and play too much like Cuahtemochs lads.

What the game does need now, is Mexico, Brazil and Gran Colombia, because they were the large empires of the area, after the Natives and the Euros.

Come on devs, say sike and announce the new civ will actually be the Comanche…

If AoEIV flops I could see Microsoft going back to the previous games. And while it may be blasphemous to say, I wouldn’t mind that one bit.

Many people don’t seem too enamored in what they’ve seen of AoEIV, including me.

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As much as I prefer the Medieval setting, I for one am not impressed with AoE4.
It looks plastic and maps like small and claustrophobic.

Also, it looks too asymmetrical, which will severely limit the amount of civs the game can get.

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The unit models are hardly distinguishable and to compensate for that their weapons are oversized which look ridiculous. Very lazy.

2 rev civs from North and 2 rev civs from South

I think this is the best solution. Since we already have the USA, it should also be Brazil. If these two civs are another two, so that they don’t feel lonely. In this way, we would get 4 most interesting revolutionary civs from the Americas.

Of course, in their place, the creators should make new revolutions, e.g. Cuba, Quebec, Bolivia and Central America (Federal Republic of Central America).

I think they should just drop the Revolutions, and work some of those unist into the actual civs in the game, like British Mounted Grenadiers, and Germans Magyar Hussars.
If the USA can have them, why can’t the Euros?

Looking at what they have announced so far I have the theory that they are following the path of WOL, it is very likely that they end up adding all the nations that are in that mod and give the game a similar approach.

Meh, I dislike WoL.
Too much “uniqueness” in everything. The mod is a mess.
Still no Siamese. Persians, Omani, Moroccans, and other nations that would actually make more sense in the game.

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I did not say that it seems like a good idea to me, but it is evident that it is the path they are taking because it is the most famous Mod of AOE3 and many revolutions and even the Incas themselves in the definitive version have mechanics similar to Wol, also, I also have the suspicion that they do not read anything from this forum xd

I just hope not. But I must agree that the USA design stinks of WoL.

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So it is not a matter of history, but of geography. :neutral_face:

If that is why then I consider that some Amazonian people should be a priority because the Amazon was in dispute for much longer between the empires of Spain and Portugal, I also believe that it would give more variety to Native American civilizations (a civ. focused on the use of poisons).

Virreinato del Perú

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No, it is a matter of historical importance.

So I maintain my position on giving priority to some Amazonian people, despite their global influence they often go under the radar.

In AoE 3 there are only 2 Amazonian units, which I consider insufficient for the large number and variety of existing Amazonian peoples, even to the present day.

Jungle bowman

Tupi Blackwood Archer

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The East of South America could be represented by one civ - Amazonian.

The only question is how to name it?
Amazons? Tupi? Guaraní? or Tupi-Guarani?

Amazonian is not a people group.

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Tupi and Guarani?

A civilization would still be needed for central South America.

What could be a collective name for such a civ?

Incas, Tupi, Mapuche and Muisca - civs from South America

The rest can be Minor Nations e.g. Tehuelche, Arawak etc.

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In my opinion they are too different, there are even the Charrúas who were a “native mattress people” between the America of Portugal and the viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata. The Tupis had contact with several European countries, Guaraní had direct contact against the Incas. It would be the equivalent of putting the Iroquois and Hurons as a single civilization.

The great detail is that of this group, only the Incas (and perhaps the Muiscas) had a government organization. Rather, the Incas were already in the Bronze Age or higher while the peoples that coexisted with the colonization were still in the Stone Age, most of them nomads.

Inca Empire

Tupí influence

Mapuche territories

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So Tupi are better as civ?

I accidentally noticed the Muisca civilization while reading about the Indians of South America. They created a culture that developed from around 1000 to 1538 and is considered to be the third group of high civilizations of pre-Columbian America, but inferior to the achievements of the Maya and Aztecs in ancient Mexico and the Incas in the Andean highlands.

So that could be a really great civ. Along with the Aztecs and the Incas (and if the Mayans do appear, they would also be with them), they would represent the most highly developed pre-Columbian civs.

Tupi and Mapuche could be the counterparts of the Lakota and the Iroquois, only from South America.

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