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Guys calm down. At this point everybody knows each other opinions. Youâre going on circles, pls respect each other.
Of course I accept that 8% of the people donât want the regional skins to be finished.
It is quite the opposite, those few people canât accept we have different opinion and they try to force us their opinion. (Also saw them on other threads doing same thing with other people).
What am I fighting for is ARGUMENTS. If you attack my opinion saying that it is stupid, bring arguments.
An opinion without arguments is not exactly an opinion. Why would I accept it? I lost time documenting so I get a valid opinion just for someone to say ââwhat you just said is stupid because I donât like itââ for no reason?
Thatâs no democracy, thatâs ignorant attack on some ones researched opinion and nobody has the right to be ignorant in 2023 
Bring arguments and I am respecting you and your opinion.
Youâre missing what everybody else is saying. Let me sum it up for you:
- Eagles, Meso Monks, and Meso Trade Carts are not conclusive proof that the game was ever meant to have regional skins to be complete. Eagles are a regional unit, not a regional skin. They are a new unit line, and look the same for everyone. Meso trade carts look different because it wouldnât be viable for a civ without horses to have a horse drawn cart, this doesnât apply to any non-Meso civs. And I think the Meso monk was probably part of a plan to better market the cool new Meso civs to players.
- Unless the devs say that the game was meant to have regional skins to be complete, this is an unfounded claim that you are fabricating, and itâs starting to annoy a lot of people. You havenât researched or proved this claim, and you feel insulted when people donât accept it.
- Iâm not sure where you are getting your stats about percentages from. 63% of people would be willing to pay for a regional skin DLC according to the poll, 22% only want it if itâs free, and the other 15% donât want a regional skin DLC.
- The devs never said they were focusing on more historical accuracy updates in future. According to their super vague roadmap, they actually said âSo you liked Dynasties of India? Weâve been taking notes.â This could mean basically anything, it doesnât mean they will be splitting stuff for historical reasons.
- Splitting a civ that represented too many others and adding regional skins are not the same thing.
- AoE2 is fundamentally a game. It is a game based on history, yes. But it always is, always has been, and always will be, a game. The primary focus should always be on ensuring an enjoyable gameplay experience, not on history at the expense of others. This doesnât make the target audience history lovers. They probably make up a significant portion of the playerbase, but youâre being derogatory towards other players, who very much have a right to play the game, without you making unfair remarks about them.
- AoE2 is competitive for reasons Iâm not going to go into, as youâve shown you wouldnât really appreciate them, but the competitive element is a massive part of the community, and has helped keep it alive for a long time. Regional skins have not.
- Itâs not ok to force stuff on people. If they donât want the skins, for whatever reason, they need to have the choice not to install/experience the skins. This includes toggles, options not to install the content at all, and probably more.
- Stop saying everyone can just play with cube mod, thatâs just rude. Not wanting regional skins doesnât mean people want to make their game look like that.
- All in all, stop saying that you speak for the majority, just because most people want regional skins doesnât mean they agree with your particular viewpoint, so you need to stop talking like you represent them, when you donât know what their actual views are, merely that they want regional skins. I, for example, wouldnât be opposed to an optional regional skin DLC pack, but I disagree with many of the comments you have been making.
Hopefully that should help you better understand why most people are disagreeing with you, itâs because you arenât actually hearing their arguments properly.
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I see, still self destructing with illogical statements.
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got a source for 86% wanting skins and only 14% against them?
if youâre referring to the poll at the top - thatâs for a DLC - which means it doesnât impact those who donât want it.
a DLC is the perfect option.
would i buy the DLC? no.
Would i be against such a DLC? also no.
63% would pay for it. meanwhile only 22% want it for free, which is ludicrous expecting people to do work for free.
so basically - yeah iâm completely in favor of what the poll you are referencing is asking for. make it a DLC that people can buy and download all the regional unit skins their heart desires.
only 22% want said change to be free. the poll does not reference making it a baseline change for the entire game.
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A passionate person would do just that, purely to make others happy. I would if I had the skills 
Money is but one of many possible motivating factors, donât forget that it doesnât need to be the sole one.
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I donât see it that way.
I see it as 22% donât really care and they would take it if it was free but itâs not important enough for them to pay for it.
Sadly regional skins canât be added without a datamod atm and thatâs not compatible with multiplayer.
I donât understand why there is so much discussion here.
Those hypothetical cosmetic DLCs should exactly work like the Enhanced Graphics Pack: client-sided only. Nobody will ever complain about readability if it is your own choice to enable it or not.
Of course, however considering that the dev team hires external people for creating sprites, getting them for free will never happen anyway.
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True but I was not discussing whether or not the DLC would be free, but his claim that itâs absurd to do anything without getting money for it 
Exactly what I was thinking. No idea why a data mod would be required for multiplayer.
The ideal situation is just expanding on the enhanced graphic pack to allow for graphical changes to each building or unit on a larger scale imo
either way, point is - the poll you have doesnât mean that 86% want it to be BASELINE in the game, like EUzero is suggesting.
I mean we literally only have ~200 people polled as is, no way is that close to the majority of the playerbase anyway.
so for him to suggest that 86% of the playerbase wants regional unit skins as the default option is ludicrous.
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and i am all for that. but that doesnât appear to be what EUzero wants.
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Never ever said anything about the players outside this thread/pool, never mentioned that, you are just trying to mislead my words, making me look bad just because you donât like my opinion .
But yes if you brought this, there is a mathematical chance for this pool to reflect what the people outside of this pool want.
So even if I say that thing (And I did not) it canât be ludicrous since there is a mathematical change, ludicrous means impossible by any means.
Thatâs my opinion and got I also brought arguments for it ( being something with toggle on/toggle off instead of baseline it can get buggy, and maybe will not bother single player experience but it will bother the multiplayer one).
Why does it bother you that I have my own opinion that it is not the same as yours?
It is a good thing to have different opinions, that is the way we learn new things (if we use arguments).
Maybe Iâve misunderstood what youâre saying â but currently regional skins can only be modded with a data mod because the game data tells the game which graphics to use for each unit. So if you want units that currently share a graphic to use different graphics, you have to change the data as well as the graphics.
AoE2 is pretty buggy generally. Any reason to think something with a toggle is more likely to be buggy?
EU â Europe, thanks.
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But you tried to silence the others, hypocrisy at itâs finest.
People have been listing so many options, yet you opt not to listen. At this point it wouldnât be strange for them to not take you seriously.
@TheConqueror753 has listed so many things and you ask them to reply on your points yet you brush off on his statement.
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I also think the skin colors used for these unit skins should be used as the default skin colors matched to each civ.
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I agree 100% with this.
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This âEast Asians did not use shieldsâ stereotype is definitely wrong, in fact apart from Japanese most other East and SE Asian armies relied heavily on shields, and we had many shield designs from large pavise-type shields to small round personal shields.
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Just jumping in here to say that at the very least for a start can we get unique new skins for all the in-game heroes. Why do Genghis Khan, Tamerlane, Frederick Barbarossa, Richard I and Saladin have normal unit skins??
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