The Qiang people are not actually a specific ethnic group. In ancient China, it was customary to collectively refer to the tribes of the West that were not under the rule of the Chinese dynasty as Qiang people. Every time the Chinese dynasty expanded westward, the parts that were included in the territory either joined the Chinese dynasty or were defeated and dispersed, and the new border ethnic groups became the new Qiang people
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Agreed, I think it’s better to divide the Qiang into at least 2 civs, the Tibetans and the Tanguts
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I knew. I just don’t think this affects the fact that the term Qiangs is still a valid name for umbrella or alternative.
Since this term generally refers to the Tibeto-Burman-speaking peoples that lived in the west of ancient China, as a civilization in the game they could cover tribes that fit this profile. These tribes would lack representation in the game after the Chinese split.
In a similar way, long ago, it was suggested that “Wends” be introduced as a potential West Slavic civilization that covered the Poles.
If the term Tibetans can be accepted by the Chinese government, then they can be directly used as the name of civilization like the Poles without the need for Qiangs or Wends as their alternatives. If not, even using Bodpa, Tubo, Tufan… would be impossible too because these terms are still very specifically referring to Tibetans. A more general term, like Qiangs, would be needed at that moment.
Ivan III is for the third Rome? I don’t think Moscow was actually the third Rome, but it’s not something to discuss right now.
Anyways, a Legacy of Rome MUST include a Justinian campaign.
Maybe one about people who claimed to be Emperors, like (currently ingame) Franks and Bulgarians (or Serbians, if you wanna go that route)
They need to add the Vandals in if there is a Justinian campaign.
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He was the one who started this claim so I think it’s a good candidate for a Slavs campaign.
That would be Byzantines. Certainly better than Bari but I think we’ll see all civs covered before we get repetitions.
What are you talking about? Byzantines don’t have a campaign
Well, if there are people who claim Charlemagne was Roman Emperor and somehow Basil the Bulgar slayer wasn’t, I suppose so
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There is a Bari campaign but its shoddy.
No idea what you are talking about
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It’s the John Cena campaign. No wonder you missed it.
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Some people play AOE2DE half blind. Sigh.
I hope for Tarascans , Zapotecs, Tlaxcallans + Mayan campaign as Dlc and Slavs renamed and reworked to Kievan Rus with campaign about Yaroslav the Wise.
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Names should be kept simple. Ruthenians is the best candidate.
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Aoe4 uses the term rus so that would also fit.
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No, it wouldn’t. Rus’ is a state name, like Lithuania, Poland, or Germany. Ruthenian is a demonym, like Lithuanian, Pole, or German. That’s the difference.
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AoE4 also uses the term Holy Roman Empire instead of Teutons.
The demonym of the Rus is Russians no? But then there would be baggage for the Ukrainian/Belarussian player base yes?
In medieval times, all Eastern Slavs were called Ruthenians.
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You all are correct Ruthenians are a better term than rus.
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I would hope for two dlc for Mesoamerica. One with the Tarascans & Tlaxcallans + Mayan campaign.
The other with Mixtecs & Zapotecs + Battles of the Americas.
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