Would the 20% faster creation time stack with the Hun team bonus as well? That sounds pretty OP
My theory is that Camel Scouts can be trained alongside Scout Cavalry; they’re not a replacement.
Their cost would be the same as regular Camels, but the Gurjaras start with one (the STARTING Scout would be replaced) and more could be trained if necessary.
nah a starting camel scout would be insane. No pretty sure they will begin with a normal scout.
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What’s funny is that a camel scout would have as bad of a LoS as a normal camel, so it would be quite hard to find the enemy scout. Or anything for that matter 11 don’t listen to me who keep forgetting dark age scout LoS is bad too
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only IF the camel scout is a prelimary version of the camel rider.
I am not so sure if this is. I think it’s not so good of an idea for various reasons.
It could also be a trash unit btw…
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I had an idea for a Camel Scout no so long time ago. It was a trash unit that did the same as the Scout-line but worse and was much stronger vs Cavalry.
So basically: Camel Scout->Light Camel->Elite Light Camel
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Maybe, but the parallel with eagle scout/warrior is hard not to make.
If they start with a camel scout that unit will (at least in dark age) probably be slower than a scout cavalry while losing a 1v1 fight vs an eagle, to prevent easy scout snipes.
Edit: Although no telling what its stats could be in feudal age. I suspect it will train a lot slower than regular camels, but it might actually be a decent unit per pop, to justify the cost. No armor, but pretty good hp and attack.
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Curious why you think a representative state of Medieval India is one set up by Mamluks with Farsi speakers as the exclusive nobility?
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Well, I’m curious how it gonna work, but that third box speaks for himself ( third line in Stable are Camels ). In the end it might be seperated line.
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So, Gurjaras will start with Camel Scout as a Scout line replacement
I’m assuming it will have low stats that improve when advanced to Feudal
I’m concerned if the Gurjaras are the ones that won’t have access to Hussar, Cavalier, Heavy Camel and Elite Battle Elephant like the other picture showed
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I reckon it will be the Dravidians who have the suckish Stable.
Their focus is primarily on infantry, navy, & Elephant Archers while the other three civilizations at least save some attention paid to their Stables.
It’s obviously not the Hindustanis because the Imperial Camel Rider still being in the civ card means they’re a dead giveaway.
It won’t be the Gurjaras because the Shrivamsha Rider is trained at the Stable; if it was the Castle UU then its unit icon would be listed first, not behind the Chakram Thrower.
It’s possible that it’ll be the Bengalis, but I would say they’re the unlikely one. They have a cavalry focus: their boni refer to elephants in general, just specifically Elephant Archers.
You could argue that the Dravidians themselves would have reason to have a large Stable, because their Castle UT, Medical Corps, also mentions elephants as a general term and doesn’t directly point out any particular units, but it’s just the one bonus while Elephant Archers themselves (alongside Skirmishers) are targeted for a passive bonus.
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Nice analysis
Not so sure about the UU train in the stables but its a strong possibility, it could also be trained in the castle
Because that UU and the Camel Scout I assumed that the Gurjaras would lack imperial upgrades for the stables units
I guess we have to wait for more info
Ultimately it’s all just speculation. For all we know, Forgotten Empires could be pulling our leg and actually giving the bad Stable to the Hindustanis, somehow. 11
Your post got me to boot the game up real quick to look at something:
When you look at the Unique Unit paragraph and you see the Flaming Camel, if you don’t immediately scroll along the tech tree to see where it’s trained, you might think the Tatars’ secondary UU would be trained at the Stable. “It’s got “Camel” in its name, right? It’s not the primary UU, or else it’d be written before the Keshik, and since it’s not, then these two points must mean that it’s trained at the Stable.” And yet, that’s not the case; it, just like the Keshik, is also trained at the Castle.
The case for the Shrivamsha Rider could be similar to the Tatars and the Flaming Camel. I still stick to my belief that it’s the Dravidians whose Stable will be the bad one, but until we get more evidence, it’s just as possible that it’ll be you who’s right.
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About Bengalis, if the leak is true, they would have Battle Elephants and with the 33% less bonus damage and resistance conversion it could be one of the toughest elephants in the game along with the Khmer ones
I wonder if the Battle Elephants will get a bonus with the DLC
Also I’m a little intrigued about the UU Ratha, its description says cavalry archer/cavalry
How could be both at the same time? And it’s the only UU that we didn’t see it so far (I don’t think it’s the chariot in the second image)
And the Ram Elephant, what the hell is that thing?
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I’m pretty sure both of these screenshots are from gurjaras. The others just don’t make sense with no imp upgrades.
It also makes sense cause the gurajas need a lot of space in the stable for the icons to produce their units, that’s why they don’t get the imp upgrades so the upgrade slots are available for the camel scout, steppe lancers and shrivamsha.
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Eh Dradivians seem more focused on elephant archers so I think the crappy stable could work with them
But tbh while I think the crappy stable being from the Gurjara’s theory is true, I think they will need cavalier to get added (and prob EBE too since their imperial UT doesnt affect battle elephants, only elephant archers)
Reasonable argument, but I think it actually doesn’t make sense.
I love Steppe Lancers and want to see their distribution increased, but we don’t really know if the Gurjaras will have them.
Not to mention the fact that it would be weird for the Gurjaras to be given what I assume is a unit that upgrades into the Camel Rider (thus taking the same slot) but lacking the Heavy Camel. Yeah, a lot of civs with direct foci on a particular unit tend to miss out on the final upgrade (Sicilians & Poles for Cavalier, for example) but this is a special case where a unit is created specifically as a weaker version of an already-existing one. It just doesn’t line up for me.
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Eh I dont thibk they will need to upgrade their camels, I imagine it will be free
Yeah that’s my guess too