you are talking too much nonsense, you are comparing things that are completely incomparable (like comparing swe age 2 with skulls or whatever, what are you talking about lol), there is one thing you are also forgetting, the skulls ( unit with 540 hp or smth and insane damage ) are free at the base and it is not enough to hit & run to win or the eco does not win all the games ( perfect example hauds who have a bad eco and who are very strong though or swe who has a good eco but who sucks balls )
and also the arsenal and the upgrade cost of resources and tempo and timing
there too you say nonsense, especially coming from you who said nonsense from the beginning and claim that the devs do not play the game itās just lol, how a dev working on a game does not even play it ? do you think about what youāre saying sincerly ?
And the buffs and the nerfs come from the questions that the devs ask the top players who sometimes even watch streams because Iāve already seen them on streams and also the dev look the forums because when people ask for Dutch nerfs they get them even if the top players were against or a jap nerf they did it too and i can give a lot of exemple like that ( Iām not saying all the buffs or nerfs, however itās obvious that some things are brought to change the meta game and not have the same meta for 10 years and the perfect example today is the brit or the chinese just before or the aztec several months ago )
tips : you should watch top player streams and ask questions (about skulls for example) and you will see the answers their give you, maybe youāll change your mind after that ( hopefully )
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I thought France getting a āRevolutionary Franceā as a revolt option or some other method would be really cool. You could unlock a Napoleon hero unit that functions like the Simon Bolivar one in the game already but maybe he has an ability to buff artillery.
You could also get Old Guard as a unique unit in the same way Britain can now get a special skirmisher in late game France could get a special Musketeer with a unique model. Old guard are already in the game as a renamed grenadier in the same way Rangers were already in the game as renamed skirmishers so it would fit nicely.
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I think Chinese German consulate -15%Food cost become -8%~10% all cost of Banner Army
The British -20% update become:
Age1 to Age2 -20%
Age2 to Age3 -15%
Age3 to Age4 -10%
Age4 to Age5 -5%
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Side note and Iām not sure if itās been mentioned before but Rogerās Rangers at the British consulate are still just skirmishers.
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Yes there has been many patches that has made the game more balanced. My argument is how they over buff stuff like Inca ff, Swedes was nerfed then overbuff, now Britās who have been a tier plus. Itās obvious their attention is else where and they mess things up and have to patch things all over again thatās your evidence. If you donāt play Aztecs you canāt say anything. Yes I do watch some streams or YouTube like lenlenlena, aussie drongo back when he played. I saw lots of Britās in the fpl tournament I donāt see them nerfing them. By over nerfing age 4 azzys there will be no other option to go to, making azzys 1 dimensional again and boring. Remember how strong age 2 landscenects can be 500+ hp in age 2 with 4.80 speed and can be masses if you know how. By azzys going age 4 they are losing out lots of resources what are you on? Thereās a give and take this nerf will only make azzys predictable with 1 viable strat, stop.
IMO you are making too much a fuss about these changes, sure no one like their main civ to be nerfed, but lets be honest, it is not only the main aztecs opinions that matterā¦ Lets see how these changes will make the aztecs, if the need arise then they can even be reverted, like it happened with manor cost for britsā¦
It is not like they are completely reworking SK after all
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True but some changes are unnecessary and is just to please some people that donāt even play Aztecs. Have you ever even tried an Aztec FI against a decent player? If so what was your result?
I thought that was intentional? I find it cool for them to ship as a different skirmisher.
Well, Iām a developer myself. Not in this game tho.
Swedes: 
Swede nerf is too far. I would not reduce vill count from 99 ā 90. The reductions to heavy infantry cards is enough. If someone is a merc spammer it is easy to counter them (arty+skirm). This will make swede way less viable in treaty games where torps become useless later in the game. Landschnekt really are not that broken for what it isā¦ They are a very high priced unit which balances out their stats.
If youre going to reduce vill count like that. Then put an age 5 trickle upgrade from each torp that produces food infinitely or something. Swede eco was already very average late game.
Britain:
I like the changes a lot. Never used them for treaty games because the lack of a skirm unit that cost food/coin rather than wood.
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I think they started out as modders and then ended up founding Forgotten Empires because Microsoft saw their talent. What you say doesnāt make sense. They know the game from its lines of code to its gameplay.
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The new voice lines bother me. I speak Lakota. These units really donāt.
example: Maza wakhan akicita! Should be: Thakicita maza wakhan!
Then the Axe Riderā¦ pretty sure that dude is speaking Dakhota, not Lakota. Pronunciation is way wrong for Lakota, but heās got some words that remind me of the Dakhota.
Very cool. So itās just AOE3 developers that donāt have logic or is all of them 
Well, Mexicans donāt hear each other with a Mexican accent either. It is more neutral spanish.
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Are you talking about Dakhota? Because Dakhota vs Lakota isnāt really an accent thing, itās closer to a full-on different language. Think Portuguese vs Spanish. I cannot have a conversation with my Dakhota friends, and I can barely understand my Dakota friends.
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I understand. (20 characters)
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How are you getting then 20% speed? the arsenal only gives 10%.
Also you are comparing 5-10 Landsknecht push (however long that takes); cause being able to train a unit that cost 250 coin is no easy task for an age 2 eco, not to getting that arsenal tech; with attacking with 15-20 SK that get free 50% stat boost in industrial (and 3 combat cards)
Its not in anyway comparable
You can make the same argumetn about samurai and dopps, japan can go golden pavillion age 2 and get samurai with close to 5 speed, and a 3 unit shipment and just train samurai, that looks strong, why doesnāt people do that.
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Pretty sure they were referring to swede landsknecht, which can get another 10% from push of pike free tech from church with traty of roskilde cardā¦ That would make them having 20% speed bonus at age 2, 10% from military drummer and 10% from push of pikeā¦ Of course that would require two shipments, one to get the landsknecht and one for the church techā¦ Also the tech from arsenal, which mean you also need to build an arsenalā¦ Definitely not comparable to SK BO, landsknecht one require more res, and in particular wood, which is the slowest to gather, unlike SK one which might require food for the early SK
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Dude I hear you but do you hear me? Itās easier to stay in age 2 for Swedes and just collect coin and mass landskenects than to go to age 4 with Aztecs because it takes at least 12 mins to reach age 4 and you still have to send in cards and collect 1500 resources for that temple card. In age 4 you have to send in 3 cards to reach critical mass, itās easily countered with skirms and canon with heavy infantry as meat shields. And I thought the other guy played the game? If you did youād be aware of the pros and cons of Aztec FI. Again I ask have you ever tried pulling off an Aztec FI? If so what has been your success rate?
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Nothing wrong with some Dakhota representation in some of the units.
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