And thats pretty much all theh have in common. Heck water and hybrid maps are more like nomad then they are like arabia but I don’t see you wanting to kick them out.
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Because they all retain the standard start; why would I care if a map contains water or not, open or not, hybrid or not as long as the start is consistent?
Exactly. The only Argument that wasnt contradicted by OP is: Nomad: -1TC, -1scout.
And im sorry but this in my opinion… Hell No lets Talk in absolutes… This is not enough for a separate gamemode.
As you see it. But clearly you’re in the mass minority.
This is why I’m glad you Have zero control over thd game. You’d literally ruin it for the masses.
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Except the original devs made 90%+ of the random map scripts designed around that very standard. As well as for many, many of the standard non-random map script maps.
And in nomad’s case, they specifically labeled it nomad for a reason.
- that other 10% is called variety.
- even in those 90% there is a plethora of different ways the game is played out from the second the game starts.
Yep. So you know what’s coming and can plot your start. Just like if you see black forest or another closed map you can plan.
Just like water maps you can plan.
Just like hybrid maps you can plan.
Just like arena you can plan.
Map variety and your approach to that variety is well and accounted for with variations in the maps, it does not require a different start to be a variable map and to change your wanted build order.
Just like in regicide you can plan
Just like in death match you can plan
That same argument can be flipped on its head and used for different game modes.
And nomad, is labeled as such.
In age of empires 1 and with modifications in age 2.
Except by your logic its not because they are all STANDARD STARTS (your words), which means everything is STANDARDIZED and you aren’t being tested by NONSTANDARD.
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Different game modes are well and healthy, and one may challenge themselves with such.
However, within the standard start and all its variable surrounding maps, there is already plenty of a challenge, and most certainly fun to be had within it.
That being said, different game modes are always desired and should be sought after and played as with new standards comes new experience and fun.
I think the problem not that nomad itself, but that you classify Arena and Nomad as different while Arena and Arabia is the same.
In fact, I think Nomad has several different static build orders (not popular) that leads to almost consistent results (notice that Nomad generation enforces some number of resources around as well, it’s not random).
(Laming - laming also exists in Arabia, you are not guanteed to get your boar anyway - which is different from Arena actually)
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Except the game mode is called “RANDOM MAP”. go look up the definition of random.
Here I’ll help “made, done, happening, or chosen without method or conscious decision”
Without method - that too me sounds like nomad would belong in “random map”
You can stop calling it a different game mode. It’s not. Just because you view it that way doesn’t make it accurate.
It’s random map, and that random map script tends to be centered around specific styles. However, it is not random start.
It’s kind of funny because one of the things he says is required for a standard start is non random tc location. But spawn location is random no matter what map.
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Except clearly it is. Because literally your tc is randomly placed. As is your opponents.
And based on nomad being in the Map pool that random too.
Just because you wish it wasn’t doesn’t make it true.
Now that, I don’t understand, because your wording of that doesn’t match anything I’ve said.
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Town center location being randomized is well and fine. The part that I mean by not a random start is by what you start with, not your location it gets placed in.
But on nomad its Not random what you start with. 3 vills thats consistent. Not more Not Less.
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That is true, however nomad has its own standard for what it starts with that’s much different than the standard game mode’s.
As does arena, fortress, hideout, and Budapest. Don’t see you crying about those.
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